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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
15. Isn't that what I factored in?
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:42 PM
Jul 2012
"You will have the option of buying a health plan through your state's exchange with federal assistance. Based on your income, your annual premiums for that plan would be no more than $4,180. Your maximum out-of-pocket costs for deductibles and co-payments would be capped at 30 percent of the total cost."


I didn't even mention the money I would spend on deductibles.

"You are exempt from the penalty if the least expensive plan option in your area exceeds eight percent of your income."


How do I determine the "least expensive plan option in" my area? Is it some near-worthless insurance? $4,180 is about eight percent of my income, so I MIGHT be exempt from the penalty, but I can't count on that.

I'm hoping that this is wrong and I will be able to afford insurance by 2016 as things improve.

Don't get me wrong. There is much in ACA that is excellent and necessary. Despite being rather disgusted at the lousy strategies and compromises that went into creating it, I am glad it passed and the mandate was upheld. And, yes, there is MASSIVE disinformation out there, and I appreciate your post.

But:

1. Declare victory where victory is real: Democrats should declare victory for the popular provisions of the law: no exclusions for pre-existing conditions, coverage for those who can't afford it, the extension of coverage for children to age 26. Wendell Potter offers a great example of how to "sell" this law to the American people.

2. Don't BS the public: But Democrats would be foolish to oversell this law. In response to the ruling, the President said today that the Court has "reaffirmed a fundamental principle that here in America -- in the wealthiest nation on Earth – no illness or accident should lead to any family’s financial ruin." That's the wrong approach for a number of reasons, one of which is that people still feel that they can't afford health care - and they're right.

A majority of those who declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses already have health insurance, and the protections in this law aren't enough to prevent that from happening. Premiums and out-of-pocket costs continue to rise for insured Americans. Health insurance costs rose more last year than they had in six years, to more than $15,000 for a family of four, and they've risen by 50 percent since 2003. Democrats should acknowledge these problems, discuss ways this law will help and, most importantly, promise to do more in the next term.

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2012062628/dont-kid-yourself-its-still-corporate-court-here-are-10-ways-respond


And I am still seriously considering Canada. Not kidding.



Here is more SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #1
I had so many people on Facebook posting stupid shit about it... YellowRubberDuckie Jul 2012 #2
I know it's rediculous SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #4
Great! Thx. Also, www.healthcare.gov is an excellent source of info and policy plans available toyu. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #3
No problem and SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #5
will the penalty affect credit rating? Skittles Jul 2012 #6
That's a good question SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #8
This is the most comprehensive thread yet. Thanks SunsetDreams. K & R. freshwest Jul 2012 #7
My pleasure :) SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #9
I have started posting Semtex Jul 2012 #13
Yes the right is SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #32
"The penalty is far cheaper" Hissyspit Jul 2012 #10
Maybe you will qualify for a subsidy or hardship nt SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #12
Isn't that what I factored in? Hissyspit Jul 2012 #15
That seems ProSense Jul 2012 #17
Well, I hope you're right. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #20
I hope you don't mind SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #22
No problem. I do appreciate your post. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #26
Thanks SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #29
Your chart says $625 for 2016. Hissyspit Jul 2012 #34
k&r for re-viewing and downloading later n/t w0nderer Jul 2012 #11
awesome post, SunsetDreams bigtree Jul 2012 #14
Thanks :) SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #23
As people start getting free checkups we are going to find out just how bad off Americans are Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #16
Noticed there was no link for the chart. Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #18
The chart lists the website directly on it. SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #19
Yes, that is how I found the link. Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #21
It is very helpful SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #36
Do you really think we're going to see any of this.? RagAss Jul 2012 #24
I'm not so sure. Wait Wut Jul 2012 #28
Well done. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #25
Thanks Ruby :) SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #30
Thanks!! And thanks to all those that replied with more info! n/t Wait Wut Jul 2012 #27
You're welcome SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #31
kick SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #33
. SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #35
Morning kick SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #37
2 more links: NY Times Q&A on ACA details and latest CBO estimates of budget ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #38
K&R savalez Jul 2012 #39
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