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Showing Original Post only (View all)Will We Abandon Womens Rights in the Name of Progressive Politics? [View all]
The most disturbing thing to emerge from this weeks badly bungled Democratic Unity Tour staged by Vermont senator Bernie Sanders and new DNC head Tom Perez was the fact that the only thing on which the two men seemed to easily agree was that reproductive rights are not necessarily fundamental to progressive politics. This led to uproar and outrage among some precincts of the left, and eventually to mea culpas and clarifications from Sanders and Perez. But it is worth closely examining this fight over the importance of reproductive rights in the party because it is an argument that the Democrats seem to rehash over and over and over again.
To recap: On Wednesday, Sanders gave an interview in which he said that he didnt know if Jon Ossoff, the Democrat who the day before had earned more than 48 percent of the primary vote in a longtime Republican House district in Georgia, was a progressive. It was an odd move for a powerful left-wing politician on a tour to rejuvenate Democratic politics to fire a shot of ambivalence at a Democratic candidate in any tight race, but it felt especially egregious given that Ossoff was now facing Karen Handel, a virulently anti-choice Republican who was forced to leave the Susan G. Komen Foundation in 2012 after trying to sever the organizations ties with Planned Parenthood, and who actively supported voter-suppression efforts as Georgias secretary of State.
Sanderss definition of what constitutes a progressive became even murkier when he suggested that the election of Heath Mello, whos running for mayor of Omaha, Nebraska and who as a state senator sponsored a 20-week abortion ban and mandatory ultrasounds for women seeking abortions would represent a shot across the board, that in a state like Nebraska a progressive Democrat can win. Not to be outdone, Perez amplified the message that reproductive rights are negotiable for the Democratic Party. If you demand fealty on every single issue, Perez said, then its a challenge. The Democratic Party platform acknowledges that were pro-choice, but there are communities, like some in Kansas, where people have a different position.
Well, sure. There are also communities in Kansas where voters have different positions from Democrats on immigration reform, labor protections, climate change, voting rights, and health care, and it would be vexing and not at all progressive for post-2016 Democrats to alter their stances on any of those issues.
To recap: On Wednesday, Sanders gave an interview in which he said that he didnt know if Jon Ossoff, the Democrat who the day before had earned more than 48 percent of the primary vote in a longtime Republican House district in Georgia, was a progressive. It was an odd move for a powerful left-wing politician on a tour to rejuvenate Democratic politics to fire a shot of ambivalence at a Democratic candidate in any tight race, but it felt especially egregious given that Ossoff was now facing Karen Handel, a virulently anti-choice Republican who was forced to leave the Susan G. Komen Foundation in 2012 after trying to sever the organizations ties with Planned Parenthood, and who actively supported voter-suppression efforts as Georgias secretary of State.
Sanderss definition of what constitutes a progressive became even murkier when he suggested that the election of Heath Mello, whos running for mayor of Omaha, Nebraska and who as a state senator sponsored a 20-week abortion ban and mandatory ultrasounds for women seeking abortions would represent a shot across the board, that in a state like Nebraska a progressive Democrat can win. Not to be outdone, Perez amplified the message that reproductive rights are negotiable for the Democratic Party. If you demand fealty on every single issue, Perez said, then its a challenge. The Democratic Party platform acknowledges that were pro-choice, but there are communities, like some in Kansas, where people have a different position.
Well, sure. There are also communities in Kansas where voters have different positions from Democrats on immigration reform, labor protections, climate change, voting rights, and health care, and it would be vexing and not at all progressive for post-2016 Democrats to alter their stances on any of those issues.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/04/bernie-sanders-and-tom-perez-must-not-abandon-womens-rights.html
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Were the first 3 threads you posted about this in the last 24 hours not adequate?
Kentonio
Apr 2017
#2
I was unaware there was a limit. At least on posts concerning women's reproductive health care.
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#5
I never talked about "half the party." Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else?
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#13
Twisting themselves into pretzles in a misguided attempt to "protect" Bernie
emulatorloo
Apr 2017
#64
these posts are in reference to something he said in the last week. this is NOT "refighting
niyad
Apr 2017
#138
Because they are being shared in one place, that makes them "different versions of the same story"
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#41
You've literally started 4 different threads in 24 hours that are all the same thing!
Kentonio
Apr 2017
#55
I'm not defending him on this. I hate the party's willingness to sell out our principles.
Kentonio
Apr 2017
#80
yeah. I don't like the threads that dismiss the concerns of women fighting for choice either
emulatorloo
Apr 2017
#92
Sort of like the principles that we don't contradict science or medical consensus on an issue?
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#102
Tough. You have tools available to you to customize your experience here. Use them. nt
JTFrog
Apr 2017
#70
goddess forfend that something as basic, as serious, as women's rights, should get attention
niyad
Apr 2017
#137
How many posts did we get during the Primary telling us what YUGE feminist Bernie is?
Starry Messenger
Apr 2017
#150
Absolutely. And what it's like in states that have placed obstructions in the way of
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#6
Kate Michelman, former president of NARAL, had to convince a board of male doctors
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#32
That is correct, however simply requiring physicians to offer it is also medically inappropriate
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#57
We were offered several ultrasounds when my wife was pregnant despite there being no...
TCJ70
Apr 2017
#83
Were those ultrasounds to be performed in the OB's office? Or were you referred to a specialist?
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#91
That would require the doctor to provide an ultrasound to all patients, which would raise the cost
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#46
Apparently there aren't enough registered democrats leading that tour, or enough women included.
fleabiscuit
Apr 2017
#26
Reproductive rights are non-negotiable. I don't care whether it is politically expedient in NE
RelativelyJones
Apr 2017
#31
I haven't "lost my fucking mind" ... I'm very clear-headed and rational and sane.
NurseJackie
Apr 2017
#48
They are blowing things waaaay out of proportion so they can go after Bernie. nt
m-lekktor
Apr 2017
#60
If Bernie would simply call abortion a health care issue instead of a "social issue"
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#123
And if this discussion were about medical advocacy that would be great. Unfortunately the Mello
Nanjeanne
Apr 2017
#90
I beg to differ...are you aware that Mello voted and sponsored anti-choice legislation...
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#106
If only those who hated Hillary applied that same "hey, people evolve" standard... (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#127
lots of people right here on DU I disagree. Particularly lately. We just disagree with
Nanjeanne
Apr 2017
#143
I don't know how anyone could think that calling abortion a "social issue" is Progressive. (nt)
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#135
Keep voting for neoliberal centrists and we will lose more of our civil rights
pecosbob
Apr 2017
#156