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In reply to the discussion: When minority voters don't flock to a candidate, we're told we just don't know enough about them and [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)65. Okay, here's one thing that irritates me, and I'm not sure this is the fault of the media or
the fault of people who insist on reading some of Sanders words as cutting people out of the picture.
When the democrats are accused of abandoning the issues of the working class, that accusation includes everybody in the working class. Just because black voters turned out to vote for Clinton does not give any such cover to the democratic party that it has been working for that portion of the working class on class grounds. Yes, they turned out for her, because the other guys are racist as fuck and are literally the enemy of equality across racial, gendered, religious and sexual preference lines, just to name a few. People of color, being clearly in the line of fire, chose Democrats because at the very least democrats are not republicans, and because they are speaking to racial and gender inequality.
That doesn't change the fact that on issues of class, while we have always been better than the republicans, we have often been far from good. White people who think they are losing their shirt because of immigrants or welfare(that some of those doofuses are likely on) are clearly not going to be receptive or even cognizant of that kind of discrimination. They think they can get back something from the people who do not have it, and we aren't bothering to undercut that message by showing them who actually does.
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When minority voters don't flock to a candidate, we're told we just don't know enough about them and [View all]
EffieBlack
May 2017
OP
Yep. Those so called-Obama/Trump voters made it clear who they support, and still support...
brush
May 2017
#1
I have seen and noted it in the past. You don't need to take my word for it
Tom Rinaldo
May 2017
#28
Yss without that specific sort there clearly would be overlap between ideology and racial catagories
Tom Rinaldo
May 2017
#34
I understand that you didn't mean 'numerical' minority. I hope you didn't think I thought you did...
ehrnst
May 2017
#37
I think you're right that minority Democratic voters have been taken for granted.
aikoaiko
May 2017
#26
It isn't that white voters are a "must" do because they are more important in any way.
JCanete
May 2017
#49
Some policies perpetuate existing inequities- favoring free college while leaving lower levels of
bettyellen
May 2017
#55
I don't think that Sanders is leaving the lower end schools to fend for themselves, and when you
JCanete
May 2017
#56
That is not what I said, nor what such legislation would do. It would make the rich
JCanete
May 2017
#64
I'm confused as I put no words in your mouth? I said Sanders revised his platform to
bettyellen
May 2017
#73
Cool, definitely worth discussing more. The only thing I was saying I did not say was your own
JCanete
May 2017
#74
No, is love more money to go to education but the inequity at lower grades is astounding....
bettyellen
May 2017
#76
I agree that's huge. Higher education does not give redress to that, even if, I still believe, it
JCanete
May 2017
#79
You know the overlap is so huge w Sanders and Hillary it makes me NUTS to hear
bettyellen
May 2017
#86
again, not dismissing anything. Point to my dismissal, not your broad interpretation of my post as
JCanete
May 2017
#62
no, from the start you totally misread me. I'll read on to see what else you misread, but
JCanete
May 2017
#60
Okay, here's one thing that irritates me, and I'm not sure this is the fault of the media or
JCanete
May 2017
#65
what does that even mean? Everybody thinks they know better, especially if they are a politician.
JCanete
May 2017
#70
First, let me get where you are right out of the way. I way overstated something and didn't realize
JCanete
May 2017
#105
The states rights federal rights issues is almost always in the eye of who is benefiting today.
JCanete
May 2017
#75
No, when you look into it you'll find out Sanders used the states rights argument
pnwmom
May 2017
#81
Once again, if they were too comfortable with the so-called "status quo", wouldn't it be helpful...
George II
May 2017
#91
No, I'm not saying they were right of center, I'm saying Obama went that extra mile to try to get
JCanete
May 2017
#102
It is not promising what can't be achieved. Saying "elect me and I will do this," is totally not the
JCanete
May 2017
#107
It is pretty rich to have two New England-based members of the country's most exclusive club
EffieBlack
May 2017
#93