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betsuni

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94. Would be nice if Sanders also gave the benefit of the doubt to Democrats.

Fri May 12, 2017, 06:26 AM

May 2017

It's not like Republicans have earned the benefit of the doubt. If it turns out there's no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, of course Dems will "forget about it" -- they're not Republicans who lie and mindlessly believe fake news and politicize everything. If Sanders didn't do the false equivalency, what he said would be fine. Why not be polite to everybody? Why give the impression that Democrats need to be warned not to behave badly? At least I didn't hear "establishment" "status quo" or "coastal elites" so I guess that's an improvement.

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"Dems should stop politicizing the issue" RE: Russia (tweet) [View all] bettyellen May 2017 OP

Fixed link, sorry! bettyellen May 2017 #1

He said that? Seriously? mcar May 2017 #2

No he did not say that. Seriously. beam me up scottie May 2017 #32

I couldn't pull up the vid mcar May 2017 #35

It's the CNN interview he did yesterday. beam me up scottie May 2017 #36

That doesn't make any sense. yardwork May 2017 #112

Never does. betsuni May 2017 #114

This is the last straw. The guy is nothing but ego. yardwork May 2017 #115

I am glad to hear that. Thanks for clarifying. NT Adrahil May 2017 #62

I'm not a Sanders supporter and it was clickbait. LiberalFighter May 2017 #69

I am not a Bernie fan but what he is saying DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #3

Why imply dems are politiczing. Or warn dems not to?? boston bean May 2017 #5

He is not a Democrat. Kingofalldems May 2017 #14

As far as DU Admins are concerned, he is: Cooley Hurd May 2017 #132

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #57

Trump's cabal politicized it when they decided to make Panich52 May 2017 #104

It is NOT the time to project this dishonesty on Dems. He can't fucking help but bettyellen May 2017 #7

+1000000000! Cha May 2017 #81

Projecting onto Democrats... yes, exactly, thank you! He's not being very subtle, is he? NurseJackie May 2017 #95

+1 betsuni May 2017 #102

He didn't say "should be careful to avoid" he said "stop." nt geek tragedy May 2017 #9

He did not say "stop". Crunchy Frog May 2017 #68

That would be usefu--save us cube rats with no geek tragedy May 2017 #73

he needs to stop pointing fingers and Cha May 2017 #82

Thank you and he didn't say they should stop politicizing it. beam me up scottie May 2017 #30

What does Mr High and Mighty suggest? yardwork May 2017 #113

Democrats aren't politicizing it. They are justified in speaking out. pnwmom May 2017 #41

I agree with that. LiberalFighter May 2017 #70

The Dems are trying to save our Democracy.. BS doesn't Cha May 2017 #80

No, what he said is that people don't trust Democrats and people R B Garr May 2017 #83

Exactly- I think there's a reluctance to honestly face the impact of the bot culture.... bettyellen May 2017 #128

It is the Republicans who are politicizing this...they refuse to investigate what is obviously Demsrule86 May 2017 #98

Saw that yesterday live. Not good! boston bean May 2017 #4

Fuck him I'm so tired of this bullshit. moda253 May 2017 #6

Non-Dems who purport to be Dems should stop attacking the party geek tragedy May 2017 #8

lol, too funny. n/t. okieinpain May 2017 #10

It's the same fucking allegation that DT and co are making, so WTF? bettyellen May 2017 #11

same old sanctimonious finger-wagging, just can't help himself nt geek tragedy May 2017 #12

OK, Now Me. May 2017 #26

sorry but i don't see where he was wrong. just listened to the whole thing okieinpain May 2017 #13

After all the obstructions- firings and refusing documents, why would anyone look at that and say bettyellen May 2017 #15

yeah, but he can't be impeached because we don't like him. that's okieinpain May 2017 #17

He accused Dems of planning to play shitty partisan games. bettyellen May 2017 #19

Exactly. JTFrog May 2017 #24

Had no idea about his campaign manager! Is that the idiot who advised him to arm wrestle Trump? bettyellen May 2017 #25

Weaver and Manafort had both worked, some years ago, for the same pro-Putin Ukrainian. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #43

i would disagree with you. n/t. okieinpain May 2017 #139

If Sen. Sanders said the moon was made out of green cheese ...how many would agree? Demsrule86 May 2017 #107

can you legally get rid of trump without legal cause? n/t. okieinpain May 2017 #138

Yes...high crimes and misdemeanors... Demsrule86 May 2017 #146

Ok, I'll have to read on it. N/t. okieinpain May 2017 #150

Really! Why does BS think trump FIRED comey? Cha May 2017 #89

Regardless if he is directly tied to the Russians moda253 May 2017 #29

He said demo shouldn't go around saying okieinpain May 2017 #66

Really? So we need to remain silent until we 'prove' stuff...how much credibility did the GOP Demsrule86 May 2017 #100

Thank you. I agree, I watched the interview and he didn't say Democrats were politicizing it. beam me up scottie May 2017 #33

Agree nt. okieinpain May 2017 #65

Wrong, the statement is fodder for endless GOP bullshit quotes and gives Demsrule86 May 2017 #103

He was wrong. There is already PROOF of DT's guilt: he fired Comey. He even connected the firing pnwmom May 2017 #42

Listen to the interview. QC May 2017 #54

I did. The problem is that Bernie began with all kinds of reasonable things to say pnwmom May 2017 #71

Can you link to this proof of collusion? When are the indictments happening? beam me up scottie May 2017 #67

So now in order to defend Sen. Sanders, you throw the Russian investigation under the bus? Demsrule86 May 2017 #105

Message deleted by DU the Administrators beam me up scottie May 2017 #120

Right... I have heard this sort of thing before but Demsrule86 May 2017 #134

Trump is guilty and I believe will be impeached. Demsrule86 May 2017 #136

How dare you interfere with Two Minutes Hate! QC May 2017 #49

LMAO! BERNIE SANDERS!!!! beam me up scottie May 2017 #55

It's fun to pretend simple concern is theatrical hate if an irrational bias compels us to. LanternWaste May 2017 #96

Yes, there's definitely a lot of 'concern' going on here, QC May 2017 #101

+1! beam me up scottie May 2017 #119

pay him no mind...it is a wedge. Russia! Russia! Russia!!! nt LaydeeBug May 2017 #16

This is very true. But jeez, I wish he'd stop banging the hammers on those wedges. Squinch May 2017 #130

He is playing to his base. NCTraveler May 2017 #18

Maybe he can cohost a podcast w Guccifer2... bettyellen May 2017 #20

On Rt ?? boston bean May 2017 #21

I am soooo pissed off, Bean. He knows better than to give them sound bytes like this. bettyellen May 2017 #22

With that other traitor Thom Hartmann... WoonTars May 2017 #38

*snort* beam me up scottie May 2017 #48

I won't listen to him anymore. And I used to love his show...listened every day. Demsrule86 May 2017 #106

Because....?? WoonTars May 2017 #116

Tom rarely mentions the Russian scandal...He allows constant criticism of Democrats and the Demsrule86 May 2017 #118

Bernie never mentions the Russian scandal? Never? Really? beam me up scottie May 2017 #121

LMAO! You didn't even watch the video, lol. R B Garr May 2017 #124

Nice, I should have put the name in but as you can clearly see I am talking about Tom Hartman. Demsrule86 May 2017 #133

Or you could listen to what he actually said.. WoonTars May 2017 #37

I have and I do. NCTraveler May 2017 #39

Exactly how does this 'fill his coffers'? WoonTars May 2017 #40

What he said was misleading and unhelpful. He said Democrats cannot politicize the issue -- pnwmom May 2017 #45

Can you show me where he said that? What was the exact time in the interview? beam me up scottie May 2017 #47

How does that 'fill his coffers'? WoonTars May 2017 #50

Where did I say that? n/t pnwmom May 2017 #51

He said Democrats should stop politicizing this issue. Democrats ARE NOT. Demanding a thorough pnwmom May 2017 #44

No he didn't say that. Watch the interview. beam me up scottie May 2017 #46

I listened...and I will post ever single GOP statement here that uses this...we Demsrule86 May 2017 #109

But, but.. he says Dems shouldn't be "politicizing".. Cha May 2017 #74

Probably not too appealing to the Putin loving JPR crowd. Crunchy Frog May 2017 #78

Those statements are being made by a lot of people. NCTraveler May 2017 #92

For goodness sake.. Kentonio May 2017 #23

GOP Hypocrites gohuskies May 2017 #27

Post removed Post removed May 2017 #28

So sick of him Motownman78 May 2017 #31

Didn't we just go over this? He didn't say Dems should stop politicizing the issue. beam me up scottie May 2017 #34

Did anybody try, you know, clicking on the play button QC May 2017 #52

I have seen everything! It is right there for anybody to hear. jesus fucking christ.nt m-lekktor May 2017 #53

But Twitter users are known for their honesty, right? beam me up scottie May 2017 #56

Twitter is the greatest, most bestest thing in the world EVAH! QC May 2017 #58

Oh indeed! I'm going to get ALL of my news from Twitter from now on. beam me up scottie May 2017 #59

There's no better place to get the latest news about celebrities QC May 2017 #60

Why it's even better than Weekly World News! beam me up scottie May 2017 #61

I once had a letter to Dear Dottie published in the WWN! QC May 2017 #63

That's impressive! beam me up scottie May 2017 #64

Sadly this is a trend that seems to extend to all media. Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #90

Yep, a taste for "fake news" is something I used to think was a wingnut thing, QC May 2017 #99

Me too. Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #117

Fake news - that's exactly what that tweet was. beam me up scottie May 2017 #122

It's the moral and intellectual equivalent of the Pizzagate lies, QC May 2017 #135

Why did Bernie think he needed to inform people that Democrats cannot politicize this? pnwmom May 2017 #72

It's such a weird thing to say.. How is investigating the Cha May 2017 #75

He was answering a direct question. Try listening to the interview QC May 2017 #76

I did listen to the whole thing. He starts off fine -- but then he had to throw Rethugs a lifeline pnwmom May 2017 #77

Exactly, he gave the false equivalence by saying people R B Garr May 2017 #88

He implied Dems were or in danger of politicizing this...he could have said... Demsrule86 May 2017 #110

Hey BS.. "No evidence of Russian collusion "except." Cha May 2017 #79

+1 uponit7771 May 2017 #84

Can you show me where Bernie said there was "no evidence of Russian collusion"? beam me up scottie May 2017 #85

Surely someone can at least post the time stamp of that remark QC May 2017 #123

That is quite curious, isn't it? beam me up scottie May 2017 #125

No, what's curious is that you can extrapolate what he says for R B Garr May 2017 #126

Thanks, Cha! n/t pnwmom May 2017 #93

Here's a rough transcript. So people can get outraged over what he actually said Crunchy Frog May 2017 #86

So he's saying "Dems cannot politicize" something he doesn't mention the GOP has been politicizing? bettyellen May 2017 #87

Here's the stupid ass trump "casually acknowledging" it.. Cha May 2017 #91

Would be nice if Sanders also gave the benefit of the doubt to Democrats. betsuni May 2017 #94

Please tell why anyone believes this guy wants Trump go down? Demsrule86 May 2017 #97

Before anyone throws around the word politicizing they should probably be prepared... Thomas Hurt May 2017 #108

+1 betsuni May 2017 #111

Exactly- why is he bolstering the DT party line? It's so divisive. bettyellen May 2017 #129

Anything to trash Bernie Sanders I see. alarimer May 2017 #127

I DID. "Bernie" and "Sanders" are in my trash thread word list. But this one STILL got through. Squinch May 2017 #131

Ha probably because you love me so, it overcomes the trash function? bettyellen May 2017 #141

LOL! Love conquors even the trash function! Squinch May 2017 #143

You want out, but I keep pulling you back in! I beat the trash function!! bettyellen May 2017 #144

I'm just like Don Corleone! They're denying the story, but on CNN they're talking about how Squinch May 2017 #145

The "didn't reveal sources methods or military operations" is extremely weak. bettyellen May 2017 #147

Yes. McMaster is about to speak. He seemed like a reasonable guy, but so far no one gets Squinch May 2017 #148

I don't get it... SpicyBoi May 2017 #137

i don't understand why folks are upset with what he said. okieinpain May 2017 #140

Because he's repeating RW spin that Dems are as distrusted as the GOP? bettyellen May 2017 #142

I kinda understand what you going after bUT I didn't hear that. N/t. okieinpain May 2017 #149