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19. Don't blame Bernie

Tue May 30, 2017, 05:12 PM

May 2017

Blame the never Hillary + Bernie + Jill Stein supporters,

when you make the perfect the enemy of the good, you will always lose elections.

Work on all Democrats, stop alienating the biggest group by catering to groups that disappoint, election after election.

Reach out to everybody don't alienate, just think what happened in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, all should be solid Democrat states. Why not?

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Black Voters Arent Turning Out For The Post-Obama Democratic Party [View all] IronLionZion May 2017 OP

They along with the rest will suffer for that choice. liberal N proud May 2017 #1

Thanks for explaining that, WellDarn May 2017 #3

We did try , we tried to tell people to ignore the email stories , that though flawed Ohioblue22 May 2017 #8

Okay, we're talking about black folks WellDarn May 2017 #10

I'm not "blaming Bernie" Bernie didn't do the voting for the dems Ohioblue22 May 2017 #17

Don't blame Bernie MiddleClass May 2017 #19

+1000 ehrnst May 2017 #38

I hate the term 'message' in this context. Adrahil May 2017 #44

"Improve our message" is EXACTLY what Republicans have said is what they need, when they lose. If WinkyDink May 2017 #51

Hasn't there been enough suffering? IronLionZion May 2017 #4

Guess it's time to blame the black guy again. Ever heard of Interstate Crosscheck and... brush May 2017 #32

And all those women who want "reproductive rights" and those LGBTQs wanting to "Pee" ehrnst May 2017 #39

YES! YES! YES! brush May 2017 #40

The point of my OP was we need to earn their votes IronLionZion May 2017 #58

It comes off as looking to place blame on AAs while ignoring the reality of... brush May 2017 #62

Right...Hillary did speak to the issues and it didn't help... Demsrule86 May 2017 #63

I'm a POC. Am I beating myself up too? IronLionZion May 2017 #65

work on voter suppression...as for turning people out... vote Democratic. Demsrule86 May 2017 #100

THANK YOU! (nt) ehrnst May 2017 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst May 2017 #97

ALL ages, races, genders, etc are going to have to learn RhodeIslandOne May 2017 #33

Yep! liberal N proud May 2017 #112

Well, a bunch of them were purged from the voter rolls. GoCubsGo May 2017 #2

I think the Supreme Court is going to preside over the Ohio voter purge....... a kennedy May 2017 #11

Yep WellDarn May 2017 #12

THIS!!! Oh how that is Conveniently Forgotten. Cha May 2017 #23

Amen to that. guillaumeb May 2017 #27

In Michigan, 45* "won" by 13K votes; 188K were purged, mainly from Detroit & other urban areas catbyte May 2017 #79

+1!!! THIS Dustlawyer May 2017 #52

I just love that picture of both of them. Auntie Bush May 2017 #5

With voter suppression and the attack on POC by law enforcement...not sure that it Demsrule86 May 2017 #6

IMO, women of color should be someone we look toward justiceischeap May 2017 #7

Good catch. And good idea for reaching out specifically to them. Squinch May 2017 #9

Not just reaching out but getting them involved at DNC level justiceischeap May 2017 #18

Yes. And recruiting candidates from among them. Squinch May 2017 #20

Remember, the largest Democratic or independent group MiddleClass May 2017 #21

The point isn't about alienating white women justiceischeap May 2017 #31

They didn't show up JustAnotherGen May 2017 #54

From what I understand Motownman78 May 2017 #111

Excellent point and it bears repeating... Docreed2003 May 2017 #41

DNC needs to contact EVERY registered Democrat Fluke a Snooker May 2017 #13

First of all we don't have the money to do that...secondly we did contact every Democrat Demsrule86 May 2017 #64

There are other ways. Bring them mail-in ballots, for instance. Fluke a Snooker Jun 2017 #113

You can't do that in Ohio...you have to request a ballot. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #114

it's still higher than anyone else for democrats. JI7 May 2017 #14

Yeah, these "blame the black guy" threads always say AA voting is down without saying... brush May 2017 #34

+10000 n/t JustAnotherGen May 2017 #55

I don't think we'll be able to use the excuse "purged voters" if Ossoff loses (let's hope not). Hoyt May 2017 #15

About the author of the article Patrick Ruffini... tenderfoot May 2017 #16

Hmmmmm? Cha May 2017 #24

Good pick-up:Echelon Insights, launched in summer of 2014 by top Republican digital strategist... FreeStateDemocrat May 2017 #25

Good catch... sheshe2 May 2017 #42

Good catch n/t kcr May 2017 #96

Or our votes are being suppressed? These articles hate to SHOW the effects of voter suppression on.. uponit7771 May 2017 #22

A positive message inspires turnout. guillaumeb May 2017 #26

If that is the case about a positive message than how did the GOP win? Demsrule86 May 2017 #73

The GOP did have a positive message. guillaumeb May 2017 #105

No it was Hillary is bad bad and more bad. Demsrule86 May 2017 #108

What about voter suppression? And what about Russian propaganda pnwmom May 2017 #28

Any analysis of POC turnout that doesn't look at voter suppression is incomplete. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #29

This is an article from a republican stratigist, whose job it is to spew republican talking still_one May 2017 #37

+1000 Quayblue May 2017 #43

I wanna see the Post-Obama Democratic Party turning out for black voters. n/t Mister Ed May 2017 #30

94% of Black women voted for Hillary. 94%. That's just amazing! lunamagica May 2017 #35

It isn't that she got a way lower percentage dsc May 2017 #47

This is from Patrick Ruffini, a republican strategist, whose job is to push republican talking still_one May 2017 #36

Yep shenmue May 2017 #45

The point was for the party to speak to their issues and earn votes IronLionZion May 2017 #46

That never happens. Demsrule86 May 2017 #66

voter suppression targeted at black communities bigtree May 2017 #48

Follow Clintons lead and platform moving forward. NCTraveler May 2017 #49

I am a liberal period end of story...but we will not win with the current platform. Demsrule86 May 2017 #68

"We are going to have to run moderates in red area." NCTraveler May 2017 #75

I want a progressive platform too...but the reality is very different...lofty goals. Demsrule86 May 2017 #80

I don't find your goals to get to power to be realistic. NCTraveler May 2017 #88

I don't think we should back down... Demsrule86 May 2017 #92

Blacks make up only 13% of GA-6 BumRushDaShow May 2017 #50

Every vote is important IronLionZion May 2017 #53

But we also need other groups to step up to the plate BumRushDaShow May 2017 #56

Yes you're correct IronLionZion May 2017 #57

The 2006 might be a guide BumRushDaShow May 2017 #59

Our party definitely needs to show more attention to state races everywhere IronLionZion May 2017 #60

One of the things that killed us at the state level BumRushDaShow May 2017 #67

13th is a good documentary on Netflix IronLionZion May 2017 #70

Thanks for the heads-up on that film BumRushDaShow May 2017 #90

You do know after big Dem donations were banned, there was no Demsrule86 May 2017 #69

Small Dem donations can still happen IronLionZion May 2017 #72

It is not enough money which is why we lost. We should have more money going forward. Demsrule86 May 2017 #74

One of the problems is that BumRushDaShow May 2017 #76

What political machines? Demsrule86 May 2017 #82

For example here in Philly BumRushDaShow May 2017 #89

Interesting...but now is not the time for big Democratic shakeups...we really do need to use what Demsrule86 May 2017 #91

True but in order to deal with the "desperate situation" BumRushDaShow May 2017 #94

Unless the area is GOP, I say leave it alone until we get some power back. Demsrule86 May 2017 #110

I don't know... mrsv May 2017 #61

I am a registered Democrat and work to get out the vote every election. Demsrule86 May 2017 #71

There is one and only one solution Cary May 2017 #77

I'd vote for a yellow dog before I would vote for any other party IronLionZion May 2017 #78

In Georgia where Dems don't even run in some areas, I wrote in 'yellow dog' sometimes Demsrule86 May 2017 #87

Amen Cary!!! Demsrule86 May 2017 #83

Covfefe, Demsrule86. Covfefe. Cary May 2017 #104

Covfefe Back at you...hehe Demsrule86 May 2017 #109

Trashed. This shit was written by a GOP strategist. DinahMoeHum May 2017 #81

Thanks I saw 538...but it is a GOP with an ax to grind. Demsrule86 May 2017 #85

Which is exactly why I advocate Vote Democratic Cary May 2017 #106

A poster noted this is written by a Republican with an agenda...why did you post this? Demsrule86 May 2017 #84

I want people to vote for Dems, and for Dems to earn the votes IronLionZion May 2017 #86

You used a right wing source, and that fact is disguised...you need at the very least to amend Demsrule86 May 2017 #93

Black voters need to understand... kentuck May 2017 #98

Black voters have carried water for the Democratic Party since the Civil Rights Act. Blue_true May 2017 #107

Fake news to provide cover for the massive suppression ecstatic May 2017 #99

What is your plan to get our people to vote? IronLionZion May 2017 #101

Quit posting right wing propaganda tenderfoot May 2017 #102

Point taken, I put a note in there IronLionZion May 2017 #103

"Sez" who? mfcorey1 Jun 2017 #115

Sez thanks for the kick! IronLionZion Jun 2017 #116

Identity Politics? jalan48 Jun 2017 #117

Thread kicking? IronLionZion Jun 2017 #118