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ecstatic

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56. What about the people dumb enough to do back flips in
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 03:31 AM
Jun 2017

defense of him?

I'll just say this... I've watched Bill Maher since the Politically Incorrect days. I don't think I've missed a episode since he started on HBO... Year after year I watched him become more and more offensive, making ignorant comments about President Obama not being black enough (according to Maher's dumbass stereotypes), disrespectful comments about women, gays, Muslims--basically everyone in the democratic tent except for white guys.

As usual, I tuned in Friday and then I heard that comment. I had to pause and rewind--did this mfcker really just say that? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of the situation, but for me personally, it still would have been highly offensive if he had said "I'm not a house slave." But it looks like he wanted to pack in as much disrespect as possible, so he said what he said.

Let's be clear: The Slavery of Africans in this country is NOT a laughing matter. 400 years of brutal rapes, abuse, murder and torture is not funny. So fuck any ignorant asshole who thinks it's ok to joke about that.

Do I think Bill's intent was malicious? No, but I see now that his disrespect for his fans (many who happen to be African American) has reached the point of no return. I'm not among those calling for him to be fired, but I will not subject myself to his abuse anymore. Enough is enough.
I almost blame myself for watching in the first place in light of his recent unhinged anti-Muslim rants, etc. I'm done!

Maher's comments are a critical thinking test underthematrix Jun 2017 #1
Why couldn't Maher quote Malcolm X correctly? leftstreet Jun 2017 #2
Because he's a shock-value comedian. Bucky Jun 2017 #8
He must be insecure, if he's still trying to 'shock' leftstreet Jun 2017 #17
Logically, I agree. But you gotta look at what skill set got him where he is Bucky Jun 2017 #32
So you"re saying that one can't be funny today without shock? Could you explain please? icymist Jun 2017 #57
I can't think of any major comedians who don't use swear words or talk about sex and race Bucky Jun 2017 #62
No white comedian should ever use the N word. It's just not funny frankieallen Jun 2017 #86
Bad analogy and I also just disagree. tazkcmo Jun 2017 #58
Your examples of non-shock comedians all go back 50 yrs Bucky Jun 2017 #63
lol You're right! tazkcmo Jun 2017 #81
I'm over 50 too Bucky Jun 2017 #85
Really, that's it? Hamlette Jun 2017 #26
He wasn't trying to quote Malcolm X, it was just a retort MrPurple Jun 2017 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author ecstatic Jun 2017 #54
It wasn't a previously written joke Bettie Jun 2017 #71
Did you actually listen to the speech you posted? DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #87
What are you talking about? leftstreet Jun 2017 #88
Malcomb X uses the term "house ni****" multiple times in the speech. n/t DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #90
Right leftstreet Jun 2017 #91
I'm not labeling Maher as malicious or racist True Dough Jun 2017 #3
Hmmm Lotusflower70 Jun 2017 #76
And I'm not saying True Dough Jun 2017 #79
White comedians shouldn't really use the N-word on tv oberliner Jun 2017 #4
It's like asking "Is There Anyone Here Actually Dumb Enough to disagree with my point of view?" Bucky Jun 2017 #5
Regarding your first point, Islam isn't a race, it's a religion MadDAsHell Jun 2017 #37
You should know that race isn't a scientific term. Hatred doesn't have to be accurate. Bucky Jun 2017 #40
I see you're point, although I'm not sure how you're coming up with what Bill Maher is... MadDAsHell Jun 2017 #43
Yeah, I'm pretty hip to all that Bucky Jun 2017 #48
And this was said within the frame of a comedic mind and quick Lint Head Jun 2017 #6
Weird that the n-word came so naturally to him oberliner Jun 2017 #19
It had to be something common to him. Lint Head Jun 2017 #49
It wasn't meant maliciously. But it was still offensive. pnwmom Jun 2017 #7
What you say would be true, if it were a joke about slavery. Exilednight Jun 2017 #9
Any joke about being a House N is a joke about slavery. n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #13
It definitely wasn't about "Sasse's racial prejudices" oberliner Jun 2017 #21
Thanks- I saw this before and thought it was nonsense. bettyellen Jun 2017 #51
Nah, you're way off on that. Sasse was obviously talking about political field work brush Jun 2017 #28
How many Exilednight Jun 2017 #59
Apparently you've never worked on a political campaign. Campaign volunteers are often called... brush Jun 2017 #74
it's not called "working in the fields". Exilednight Jun 2017 #83
It is often called working in the field and they do a lot more than canvassing brush Jun 2017 #84
George Carlin said you can joke about anything. And then went on a long cringeworthy bit on rape. Bucky Jun 2017 #10
Good post, Bucky. Thanks! n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #14
How was his heart in the right place? And his joke on the right side of history? oberliner Jun 2017 #22
It was both incredibly offensive AND anti-slavery, yes. If you can't see that he had a reason... Bucky Jun 2017 #35
Anti-slavery? oberliner Jun 2017 #60
I believe Bill Maher is great Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #11
The part I don't get is why African Americans can be so offended when they use the doc03 Jun 2017 #12
When they use it among themselves they know it isn't meant as a racial slur, pnwmom Jun 2017 #15
I get that but why do they do it? To me they are disrepecting thier own race. doc03 Jun 2017 #18
Reclaiming the term oberliner Jun 2017 #24
I'm gay, and I don't know any of my gay friends who call each other gay slurs. cwydro Jun 2017 #69
Queer used to be a pejorative gay slur oberliner Jun 2017 #70
I do not believe... tonedevil Jun 2017 #73
When white people make this point, I wonder if they're jealous loyalsister Jun 2017 #23
To get respect you have to respect yourself. When I see a person black or white doc03 Jun 2017 #42
Jealous of the use of the n word loyalsister Jun 2017 #44
Well if that is what you think there is no point of any more conversation with you, that's doc03 Jun 2017 #45
I don't like hearing the word either, no matter who says it. cwydro Jun 2017 #68
I remember calling someone out about it loyalsister Jun 2017 #78
Yours is both a mentally simplistic and ethically convenient allegation LanternWaste Jun 2017 #77
Oh ffs! TDale313 Jun 2017 #39
The part I don't get is why White Americans ecstatic Jun 2017 #75
He shouldn't have said it. blue neen Jun 2017 #16
That's how I feel. Mz Pip Jun 2017 #29
Amen to that! blue neen Jun 2017 #31
Yep. TDale313 Jun 2017 #38
K & R n/t billh58 Jun 2017 #20
Disregarding history loyalsister Jun 2017 #25
+1 BainsBane Jun 2017 #55
That reveals contempt loyalsister Jun 2017 #94
Maher is only intermittently funny, Exilednight. Mostly these days he's just full of himself... Hekate Jun 2017 #30
Maher fell victim to the stereotype that all GOP are racists Thomas Hurt Jun 2017 #33
I'm always surprised by how many people think Maher is important, so there you go. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #34
I keep hearing people ask "What makes him think using using that word is okay?" MadDAsHell Jun 2017 #36
Nope, he actually admitted he knows it's not okay. And that's the truth bettyellen Jun 2017 #52
Ah, yes. The old "THEY say it, so therefore it's okay for ME to say it" Orrex Jun 2017 #67
Well, mostly it's race tho Bucky Jun 2017 #95
I've used about the same analogy and called it one of our biggest problems. It's the way the brewens Jun 2017 #41
Cultural appropriation is often used to blunt the voices of those who's cultural was stolen from. nocalflea Jun 2017 #46
No, I don't think it rises to the level of malicious. Lil Missy Jun 2017 #47
He's probably not racist. It was definitely no think though mvd Jun 2017 #50
I think the problem with Maher (and various other comedians and even politicians) Kentonio Jun 2017 #53
What about the people dumb enough to do back flips in ecstatic Jun 2017 #56
I will not stand for anyone overestimating my intelligence. AngryAmish Jun 2017 #61
Yes, I'm dumb enough to think a wealthy white man would say something malicious toward AA's. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #64
*hat tip* Bucky Jun 2017 #65
Is anyone dumb enough to think that he's not a fucking asshole? Orrex Jun 2017 #66
Believing his statement malicious is not necessary for believing it execrable. Orsino Jun 2017 #72
Not being a fanboy, I count on those such as yourself to rationalize the irrational. LanternWaste Jun 2017 #80
That was a very solid response Orrex Jun 2017 #92
Maher is already persona non grata with many social justice progressives Azathoth Jun 2017 #82
Is there anyone here dumb enough to think anyone that doesn't frankieallen Jun 2017 #89
I don't think he was intentionally malicious. logosoco Jun 2017 #93
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