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23. Once again. Both sides are trying to draw us into a no-win conflict. If we play, we lose

Sat Jun 10, 2017, 01:27 PM

Jun 2017

Obama said the same thing about Syria five years ago: while the humanitarian situation was heartbreaking, he said, he had asked Putin to cooperate on a solution 2 years before (i.e. 2010), and Putin told him (in essence) to fuck off. Now (i.e. 2012), it was a very nasty civil war with about five different factions, all of whom hate each other, and all of whom hate us (the USA).

Obama recognized back then that if we get drawn into it, we lose. The same is the case now, too. Putin is already salivating over the prospect of Turkey leaving NATO and becoming his patsy (Erdoğan would be more like a pet rattlesnake, but Putin isn't fazed by that). Qatar would be icing on the cake.

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Qatar is a serious Crisis [View all] JCMach1 Jun 2017 OP

K&R..For visibility... HipChick Jun 2017 #1

kick kentuck Jun 2017 #2

Problem is Turkey and Iran are allying with Qatar. roamer65 Jun 2017 #3

Qatari military is small compared JCMach1 Jun 2017 #10

Dolt45 needs to be impeached. gademocrat7 Jun 2017 #4

That is in the hands of the republicans until 2018 since we don't have the majority. Also, even if still_one Jun 2017 #5

Scary times - Thanks for your post that concisely captures so many factors so clearly karynnj Jun 2017 #6

+ 1,000 suffragette Jun 2017 #35

And on top of all that, nobody's sure how to pronounce it! Towlie Jun 2017 #7

cutter, cuttar heaven05 Jun 2017 #13

I have heard both. But you seem right on how it is basically pronounced. Blue_true Jun 2017 #27

Stress on first syllable. nt tblue37 Jun 2017 #15

with 10,000 US troops in Qatar the chances of BCC invading are zero grantcart Jun 2017 #8

Obama allowed the Saudis to invade Bahrain despite JCMach1 Jun 2017 #11

That would be the invasion requested by the Bahraini government Igel Jun 2017 #28

You just make up crap that you think sounds good, completely against the known facts in the case grantcart Jun 2017 #29

Existing minority dictatorship JCMach1 Jun 2017 #33

So the US 5th fleet and command is not a presence? JCMach1 Jun 2017 #34

Just for the record Hobo Jun 2017 #37

Yes all of the former British colonies have a very large percentage of Indian and Pakistani grantcart Jun 2017 #40

Need a Democratic party majority in the house in 2018 UCmeNdc Jun 2017 #9

On top of this. Turkey is deploying 3000+ troops JCMach1 Jun 2017 #12

Drumpf kisses the butts of the leaders of the people who attacked us on 9/11 judesedit Jun 2017 #14

K&R! nt riderinthestorm Jun 2017 #16

Angels watch over our troops and the innocents who will be affected judesedit Jun 2017 #17

Yep Strelnikov_ Jun 2017 #18

No win situation AlexSFCA Jun 2017 #19

Once again. Both sides are trying to draw us into a no-win conflict. If we play, we lose DFW Jun 2017 #23

K&R. dchill Jun 2017 #20

oil or armageddon? bora13 Jun 2017 #21

k&r fantase56 Jun 2017 #22

The president and his secretary of state have diametrically opposite views on Qatar. Nitram Jun 2017 #24

Will Speaker Ryan give Trump (R) a pass on this one too? He's new at this. oasis Jun 2017 #25

K&R. Great points thanks for the OP. dae Jun 2017 #26

Your opening premise is without a factual basis grantcart Jun 2017 #30

Bahrain was on the verge of a peaceful revolution JCMach1 Jun 2017 #32

The arab spring was an arab failure, obama had nothing to do with it Mosby Jun 2017 #38

Well your right if the meaning of words have no meaning grantcart Jun 2017 #39

"It will also come as little shock that the Russians will benefit heavily strategically and workinclasszero Jun 2017 #31

The nautural gas is in Iran and Qatar... AntiFascist Jun 2017 #36