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In reply to the discussion: I hate this place at times like this. [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)90. Bullshit. The Obama Presidential campaign never got in the gutter. Not once.
Have we ALREADY forgotten the quiet dignity that he won with?
Are you suggesting we would have won MORE if we'd fought fire with fire and slung mud, and racism, and hate, just like they did?
Please tell me you're not serious. It's not going to work, and it's totally a-historical. We do NOT win when we get in the gutter. You cannot out-gutter them. You want to engage on a battlefield they built, and own.
Having a spine, standing up to them, shaming them with their own savagery, none of that requires adopting their tactics. If we become them to beat them, why bother winning? Do you want to be them? I sure as fuck don't.
And I won't help you do it.
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LanternWaste
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Bullshit. The Obama Presidential campaign never got in the gutter. Not once.
AtheistCrusader
Jun 2017
#90
"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster."
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SweetieD
Jun 2017
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