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Bettie

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96. "WE" don't get violent
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:05 PM
Jun 2017

one guy out of millions got violent. Why? Because he is a disturbed guy, probably.

If they cheat, we root out the cheaters and expose them.

If they are racist, well, they are racist and we do our level best not to be (with varying degrees of success, because we'er humans and not perfect).

What we don't need to do is excoriate ourselves over one guy out of millions.

We don't need to blame every person who ever supported Sen. Sanders in the primary for this one guy's actions.

We don't need to act as if the Republican rep who got shot is some kind of folk hero. He's a guy who was in a place with a disturbed individual who chose to use a gun to try to kill people.

That is not "our" fault. All we owe them is what they give us: vague statements about hopes and prayers. The difference there, is that almost none of us wants to see people killed. Them? Not so much.

it's partisan because if we don't make it partisan they will gopiscrap Jun 2017 #1
It's also partisan because these people have enabled violence for too long BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #6
exactly gopiscrap Jun 2017 #9
I'm gonna get blasted for this post...but LOL Lib Jun 2017 #18
What happens if shoe were reversed is not the point! MGKrebs Jun 2017 #23
But it is the point atreides1 Jun 2017 #55
Well then what is different about us? MGKrebs Jun 2017 #59
"WE" don't get violent Bettie Jun 2017 #96
Nobody is trying to do it "your way." Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #99
I understand your argument completely. LOL Lib Jun 2017 #57
There is one political party that wants unfettered gun ownership, even for the WinkyDink Jun 2017 #70
I was really impressed with Wonder Woman with the point that it's not about what they Amaryllis Jun 2017 #87
+1 AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #89
I am with you MGKrebs Saboburns Jun 2017 #104
What I want for Republicans is political defeat and utter humiliation, klook Jun 2017 #40
I am of the same thought here. And after reading the responses of some of these people airmid Jun 2017 #105
Damn right. n/t Brainstormy Jun 2017 #67
Hate to say it, but I pretty much feel the same way.. whathehell Jun 2017 #81
And back when Reagan was shot Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #100
True.. whathehell Jun 2017 #103
Yeah... Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #108
Sandy Hook.....says it all. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2017 #93
So what if they do? MGKrebs Jun 2017 #20
This is why the Cold War dragged on for most of my life. AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #88
So... Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #98
I agree OKNancy Jun 2017 #2
Not always--it mainly started with Gingrich in the 1980's who told Republicans never to describe the Akamai Jun 2017 #35
Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #82
There is such hatred these days... Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #3
bullshit we will only win when we get in the gutter gopiscrap Jun 2017 #13
Winning is indeed, more important than our own behavior, our ethics and our character LanternWaste Jun 2017 #14
yes because with a loss nothing changes gopiscrap Jun 2017 #17
That is a false choice. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #46
If you get into the gutter with them Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #101
+1 dalton99a Jun 2017 #38
I have to agree Jake Stern Jun 2017 #52
What does that mean? MGKrebs Jun 2017 #62
YEP Cosmocat Jun 2017 #69
Bullshit. The Obama Presidential campaign never got in the gutter. Not once. AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #90
100% this. OriginalGeek Jun 2017 #95
9-11 Cosmocat Jun 2017 #72
I just don't see where matching their hatred gains us anything. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #75
Then accept where we are now Cosmocat Jun 2017 #79
"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster." AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #92
What would an avowed white supremacist like Scalise think about me as a black woman if I got shot? SweetieD Jun 2017 #4
I totally agree with you-you have my heart gopiscrap Jun 2017 #10
Then aren't you the same as him? MGKrebs Jun 2017 #11
You really have to ask?? LOL. 58Sunliner Jun 2017 #19
No. Because I am the victim of people like Scalise and he is the perpetrator. SweetieD Jun 2017 #25
Does John Lewis wish his oppressors were shot? MGKrebs Jun 2017 #36
I don't care what they wanted. I speak for myself. And I never said I wanted Scalise to be shot. SweetieD Jun 2017 #44
+1,000. I'll save my pity for his victims. 58Sunliner Jun 2017 #21
The wounded Capitol Police officers were not guilty of anything IronLionZion Jun 2017 #63
Many of us are speaking to their hypocrisy SHRED Jun 2017 #5
thank you gopiscrap Jun 2017 #12
I guess you can tell yourself whatever you want. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #37
... LOL Lib Jun 2017 #7
I agree totally! LongTomH Jun 2017 #8
until the GOP freddyvh Jun 2017 #15
We know that it will be partisan, they will make it so. 58Sunliner Jun 2017 #16
Well then respond to those that do! MGKrebs Jun 2017 #39
Why do you make assumptions not based on what people post. 58Sunliner Jun 2017 #97
"They will make it so" refers to the future. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #107
It's proof of how politics in this country has jumped the shark. Oneironaut Jun 2017 #22
I'm sorry Scalise was shot but he's still a POS White Supremacist nt maryellen99 Jun 2017 #24
And I won't argue with that. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #41
The victims have my sympathy. But they are reaping the hate that they have sown. Tatiana Jun 2017 #26
this is the best response right here barbtries Jun 2017 #34
Good post and I agree. CentralMass Jun 2017 #27
K and r. cwydro Jun 2017 #28
OMG isnt that the truth 7962 Jun 2017 #60
Sadly true. onenote Jun 2017 #29
Yeah, its a damn shame, and it is entirely ineffective. It makes us look shitty, and that's JCanete Jun 2017 #30
A repug Congressman from IL said in an interview elmac Jun 2017 #31
We should fight that fascist pig for that comment. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #42
They go low, we go lower sarisataka Jun 2017 #32
you can block people barbtries Jun 2017 #33
I don't block people anymore. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #43
i do. barbtries Jun 2017 #48
I have never once put anyone on ignore. I ignore posts, not people. DFW Jun 2017 #56
Tracking daily gun violence across the country elmac Jun 2017 #45
Clearly a public health issue. Duncan Grant Jun 2017 #77
One thing is universally true-- no one cares about the dead shooter. Pinkflamingo Jun 2017 #47
Thank you MGK! You make this forum a better place. flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #49
there will be a Kumbaya moment elmac Jun 2017 #50
Knowing that trolls will be exposed to the home page Deb Jun 2017 #51
Are they really victims? ExciteBike66 Jun 2017 #53
Yes they are victims. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #78
Ditto. Thanks. elleng Jun 2017 #54
We worry about OUR tone, meanwhile, SCVDem Jun 2017 #58
Yes. What does being vile gain you? MGKrebs Jun 2017 #66
Violence & assassination never ok except in most very dire situations. We aren't close to that. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #61
Absolutely- but dire is in the eye of the beholder. missingthebigdog Jun 2017 #76
Good comment. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #80
Is it all right to give them exactly, but exactly, the same amount of support sarge43 Jun 2017 #64
If you want to help victims of gun violence, then help victims of gun violence. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #68
Or the immediate jump to "Its a setup" "Its a false flag" 7962 Jun 2017 #65
I agree with you. Human beings were shot today by a madman emulatorloo Jun 2017 #71
THANK YOU. nycbos Jun 2017 #73
I am with you MGKrebs Saboburns Jun 2017 #74
Excuse me if this has already been posted, but I just found this, words cannot describe.... FrankfurtCat Jun 2017 #83
Yeah let's have pity on the party that is getting workinclasszero Jun 2017 #84
Browse the posts today at DI. You'll feel a lot better about DU. beaglelover Jun 2017 #85
"We live in a political world" G_j Jun 2017 #86
I agree. We should oppose them, not become them. nolabear Jun 2017 #91
I agree to a certain point angrychair Jun 2017 #94
I love this place at times like this Miles Archer Jun 2017 #102
I know that the "we are better than they are, Progressive dog Jun 2017 #106
Hi MGKrebs! denbot Jun 2017 #109
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