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Mc Mike

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23. I'm glad you mentioned the proud boys, in the OP and this sub post, Ini.
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 06:30 PM
Jun 2017

There was a NY Times article posted here a few days ago, about reich wing fringe groups:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9154976

It mentions that Vice Media founder, Gavin McInnes, a big dRumpf supporter, founded the proud boys:

"The founder of the Proud Boys, Mr. McInnes, 46, a Canadian with a hipster-lumberjack aesthetic, is no stranger to controversy. He helped found Vice Media and edited its edgy magazine before leaving in 2007 over differences with his partners. In one episode that drew his colleagues’ ire, he told The New York Times in 2003, “I love being white.”

Mr. McInnes has seemed to find sophomoric pleasure in offending liberals, feminists, “beta male culture” and transgender people. His work is often inflected with a tone of crass, satirical bigotry that leaves him just enough room to declare it all a joke. While Mr. McInnes insists that the Proud Boys are “are a normal fraternal organization like the Shriners,” the sentiments that unify its members are often tinged with disrespect for nonwhite culture."
...

"Some groups like the Proud Boys have initiation rituals that include violent hazing and require an oath of fealty to Western culture. Their followers thrive on hyper-masculinity and celebrate when one of their brethren hits a leftist agitator. They mock Islam and purport to be soldiers against a “war on Whites,” while being mindful not to embrace overt white supremacy. Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime associate of Mr. Trump’s, has taken the Proud Boy oath.

The Alt-Knights were initially conceived as a paramilitary wing of the Proud Boys, designed to provide protection for audiences listening to conservative speakers like Ann Coulter and Milo Yiannopoulos, whose public events have been canceled because of threats of violence."


I know McInnes and his Vice partners 'split up' 10 years ago, but I'd take Vice's reporting about 'fears of a surge in lefty violence' with a grain of salt. Because they've had ample opportunity to do a story covering the nazi goon squad aims and actions of the guy with whom they had an acrimonious split, but instead theychose to do a story that seems to dovetail nicely with McInnes' fantasy that his people are about 'defending themselves' against the violent left, and are completely 'justified' by the existence of a violent leftist threat.

Don't condone violence, but Skidmore Jun 2017 #1
That's what they expect atreides1 Jun 2017 #5
Exactly. I can't feel too sorry for the republicans. Initech Jun 2017 #10
What did they expect atreides1 Jun 2017 #2
Been saying this for a while! Initech Jun 2017 #3
And look what happens after one left-wing act of violence: Paladin Jun 2017 #15
To start with, what the fuck is a "left wing extremist group"?? Does such a group even exist today? madinmaryland Jun 2017 #4
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Initech Jun 2017 #6
I'm glad you mentioned the proud boys, in the OP and this sub post, Ini. Mc Mike Jun 2017 #23
From his HuffPo bio, he doesn't sound RW... JHB Jun 2017 #8
a list of left-wing extremist groups: bluecollar2 Jun 2017 #18
I'll add... madinmaryland Jun 2017 #20
Rogue National Park Service Employees. Mc Mike Jun 2017 #25
To continue gratuitous Jun 2017 #22
Oh, really? Where's the pattern of violence from "the left"? Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #7
Anti-Trump rhetoric is not equal to anti-government rhetoric Bettie Jun 2017 #9
I Wouldn't Put Too Much Stock in This Leith Jun 2017 #11
So it has nothing to do with the show Vice then? Initech Jun 2017 #14
The HBO Show? Leith Jun 2017 #16
Freak Righty out: Generally, Conservatives win coups/attrition, Liberals win at swift overthrows. TheBlackAdder Jun 2017 #12
Are we getting new Karl Marx t shirts? leftstreet Jun 2017 #13
I will say this as politely as I can. blogslut Jun 2017 #17
Second that emotion. nt Mc Mike Jun 2017 #24
the group they are talking mercuryblues Jun 2017 #19
Get ready for more Ashley Todds. frogmarch Jun 2017 #21
The weatherundergound was from 50 years back. Dawson Leery Jun 2017 #26
I'm worried about campus radicalism becoming violent Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #27
So, one "lefty" shooter tazkcmo Jun 2017 #28
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