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Blue_true

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48. We can start with better mental health care along with holding gun owners responsible for securing
Sat Jun 17, 2017, 07:56 PM
Jun 2017

their guns. Stand your ground laws are built around the fantasy that everyone that use a gun are protecting life. Some people shoot other people simply because of their race or religion then get away with it under stand your ground laws.

Sandy Hook is a tough and sad example. Once a homicidal nut is on school grounds with high powered weapons, tragedy follows. The mom of the killer thought exposing him to deadly weapons would help heal his mental issues. She likely let him know where the gun safe keys were. She got a bullet through the head before the killer went to Sandy Hook and killed 26 innocent human beings. There were two tragedies, a gun loving mom was left to deal with a person that should have been a publicly funded mental institution and the second and most disheartening is what the killer did at at Sandy Hook.

We are not going to stop killers, there are so many ways to kill. But guns present by far the easiest way to kill, so we should work on sane ways of keeping them out of the hands of potential killers and mentally unstable people.

Ferfucksake... [View all] pbmus Jun 2017 OP
yes. the 2nd amendment should only cover muskets. pansypoo53219 Jun 2017 #1
Woooshhhh! gtar100 Jun 2017 #23
Actually, that is all it covers. Blue_true Jun 2017 #36
Apparently thinking like you are in the 1700s is fashionable and really intelligent pbmus Jun 2017 #57
The issue is we have laws for all types of stuff that came about after the original articles. Blue_true Jun 2017 #58
They do view a certain cohort of our citizenry as only 3/5 of a person, however. So KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #68
It's a slippery slope to say the 2A only covers muskets, because... LesterKasai Jun 2017 #42
Actually, printed pornography was the first profitable industry KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #69
Or only be interrupted Jim Beard Jun 2017 #94
And don't forget the part about the "well-regulated militia." calimary Jun 2017 #47
You are not supposed to mention that HAB911 Jun 2017 #66
PLEASE mention it - that is a reason things like assault weapon bans and mag capacity laws should be jmg257 Jun 2017 #84
Lol - Aussie comedian Jim Jefferies Tall Poppy Jun 2017 #2
HA! padah513 Jun 2017 #7
Hahaha canetoad Jun 2017 #12
Gun humpers are not known for their intellect Skittles Jun 2017 #3
After 8 years in military intelligence and humping my gun through 4 deployments Alea Jun 2017 #6
I don't think being a gun enthusiast retrowire Jun 2017 #8
Finishing engineering with physics? XRubicon Jun 2017 #22
Finishing, as in will finish at AU Alea Jun 2017 #30
Good luck to you XRubicon Jun 2017 #45
I don't respect that. hunter Jun 2017 #32
Good for you Alea Jun 2017 #34
you "vote Democrat" Skittles Jun 2017 #33
You are also likely a responsible gun owner and are willing to register your guns. Blue_true Jun 2017 #37
Blue............ MyOwnPeace Jun 2017 #44
We can start with better mental health care along with holding gun owners responsible for securing Blue_true Jun 2017 #48
and that's what hurts...... MyOwnPeace Jun 2017 #50
Very well said, and Alea Jun 2017 #46
Pardon me but I wanted to ask... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2017 #77
Registration has the potential to be abused by government. Blue_true Jun 2017 #78
{{this}} discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2017 #79
I assume you meant... kag Jun 2017 #64
You voted as a Democrat or for the Democratic Party. The Wielding Truth Jun 2017 #65
Cool story! nt USALiberal Jun 2017 #72
But guns make me feel better about my impotence and tiny penis! flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #4
LOL. Duppers Jun 2017 #73
Ha ha - and by "well regulated militia", they didn't mean the citizens under arms, jmg257 Jun 2017 #5
This isn't the late 1700's anymore. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #10
Really? Then why a goofy meme depicting George Washington? I agree - very silly. jmg257 Jun 2017 #13
Do you know what "amendments" are? yallerdawg Jun 2017 #15
Of course - the 2nd was one of the 1st, which means it "changes" the body of the document. jmg257 Jun 2017 #16
Your words. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #18
Ah gotcha. Agreed, thanks for pointing that out to help keep things clear. jmg257 Jun 2017 #21
What I'm saying is... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #24
Yes. Clearly things have changed, including the people redefining what was meant by jmg257 Jun 2017 #25
"We keep running into its shortcomings" pbmus Jun 2017 #51
all those millions of guns bought cause "bama gona take my gun" elmac Jun 2017 #9
Motley Fool tip -"Don't short!" yallerdawg Jun 2017 #26
"We were talking about a 3 page per minute press, not 100mbs of IP traffic!" X_Digger Jun 2017 #11
What makes owning a big boy toy... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #14
Who said 'toy'? Oh that's you. Feel free to address what I actually said, not what you wish I did. X_Digger Jun 2017 #17
That is blatantly false MGKrebs Jun 2017 #19
No right is absolute, no. Tell me who said they are. It wasn't me, so you're arguing with whom? n/t X_Digger Jun 2017 #27
You said a right to bear arms didn't depend on technology. MGKrebs Jun 2017 #49
I think you pointed out a limitation to the statement, not an exception. LesterKasai Jun 2017 #52
No, that's not an exception, because nukes have never been part of 'bearable arms'. X_Digger Jun 2017 #61
Every 'right' you identify has limits. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #20
And again, who said all rights are absolute? You sure do like arguing with things I didn't say. X_Digger Jun 2017 #28
It's good to know that 'principles' can be hedged. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #29
Is it you who has this definition of rights being absolute? What a silly concept. X_Digger Jun 2017 #38
What you said to start: yallerdawg Jun 2017 #40
Oh joy, you can pick a nit! How novel. X_Digger Jun 2017 #41
I have open carried at an airport and on to an aircraft discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2017 #76
I have carried a full auto weapon with a full load of ammo (200rds) onto oneshooter Jun 2017 #88
Chartered flight, you owned the aircraft or red passport? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2017 #90
Military charter. oneshooter Jun 2017 #91
Thanks again for your service discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2017 #92
When I was working overseas my Employer required that we be armed 24-7. oneshooter Jun 2017 #93
So your reasoning is from the 1700's? pbmus Jun 2017 #56
We don't apply rights based on technology, but on foundational principles. X_Digger Jun 2017 #60
The pope now believes in UFO's... and somehow I feel pbmus Jun 2017 #62
That tickled the ol' funny bone. ffr Jun 2017 #31
I want a nuclear submarine with missiles. hunter Jun 2017 #35
now THAT is some real compensation! jmg257 Jun 2017 #39
I have a huge ego. hunter Jun 2017 #43
And out on the wild frontier of 1789 moondust Jun 2017 #53
Definitely it was a big consideration. Major debates in Virginia raifying jmg257 Jun 2017 #55
Kick for George! Cha Jun 2017 #54
Ya think? BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2017 #59
Gun regulations guss Jun 2017 #63
Great meme Gothmog Jun 2017 #67
Why just keep it at firearms? Duppers Jun 2017 #70
I just think of the... uriel1972 Jun 2017 #71
😁 Duppers Jun 2017 #74
You can own a "armored tank", all it takes is money. oneshooter Jun 2017 #89
K & R! billh58 Jun 2017 #75
Did you post that with a quill pen and/or a hand-cranked press? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2017 #85
Second Amendment Exclusion stephensolomita Jun 2017 #80
So many wrongs surrounding gun laws, really should start with the most obvious pbmus Jun 2017 #81
Rate of fire, yes. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2017 #82
K&R for greatest exposure! n/t Different Drummer Jun 2017 #83
I'll second that! n/t billh58 Jun 2017 #86
Didn't GW realize guns killz peepoles? ileus Jun 2017 #87
Funny, not really true, but funny. aikoaiko Jun 2017 #95
Ok... pbmus Jun 2017 #96
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