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In reply to the discussion: An 18 point shift in a seat R's have won since 1978 is a damn good showing! [View all]FBaggins
(26,727 posts)36. That, too, is deceptive
Incumbents REGULARLY outperform someone from the same party running for an open seat. That's why parties focus so hard on open seats.
Also - incumbents in comparatively safe seats rarely get legitimate opponents who are well-financed - and thus their margin of victory is significantly outsized.
Looking at the Clinton/Trump numbers for the same district is not an illegitimate way to evaluate this race. It's certainly closer to "generic R vs. generic D" than looking at a blowout by an incumbent against someone with no name recognition and no fundraising.
For context - read this article from November:
http://www.cbs46.com/story/33632482/who-is-the-ghost-candidate-for-us-6th-district
ATLANTA (CBS46) - Voters are questioning "who is the Democrat U.S. representative 6th district candidate, Rodney Stooksbury?" He is on the Georgia ticket up against Republican Tom Price. Yet, he is virtually unknown. Stooksbury has no candidate picture, website, Facebook, Twitter nor LinkedIn account.
CBS46 went to the address registered to Stooksbury and no answer. We spoke with neighbors who say they've never even heard of him. One voter expresses her frustration on why the candidate would even run? "You would think for a Congressional race, someone who is on the ballot would take it a little more seriously," Emily Novik tells us.
There have been no campaign signs spotted with Rodney Stooksbury's name on it. Voters question if Stooksbury even exists.
ATLANTA (CBS46) - Voters are questioning "who is the Democrat U.S. representative 6th district candidate, Rodney Stooksbury?" He is on the Georgia ticket up against Republican Tom Price. Yet, he is virtually unknown. Stooksbury has no candidate picture, website, Facebook, Twitter nor LinkedIn account.
CBS46 went to the address registered to Stooksbury and no answer. We spoke with neighbors who say they've never even heard of him. One voter expresses her frustration on why the candidate would even run? "You would think for a Congressional race, someone who is on the ballot would take it a little more seriously," Emily Novik tells us.
There have been no campaign signs spotted with Rodney Stooksbury's name on it. Voters question if Stooksbury even exists.
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An 18 point shift in a seat R's have won since 1978 is a damn good showing! [View all]
LBM20
Jun 2017
OP
Absolutely. Democrats and DU need to stop beating themselves up. They "done good". . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jun 2017
#1
Right. In fact doing what do what so many have been screaming for: Fighting hard EVERYWHERE.
LBM20
Jun 2017
#3
We all knew it was a heavy lift...but we gave it our best shot...the Carolina race was too close
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#2
Jon Ossoff got fewer votes than the Democratic candidate who lost the district to Tom Price in 2016.
oberliner
Jun 2017
#4
This was a special election run-off. ALL turnout was down on a very rainy day to boot. You have to
LBM20
Jun 2017
#5
Please tell me how it was ever going to be easy to win this very red district? It is very hard.
LBM20
Jun 2017
#18
Your title is DECEPTIVE. Only 24 votes fewer. Republicon got 66,500 votes fewer.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jun 2017
#7
Your title is deceptive because it is less than a half truth. About a third truth.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jun 2017
#24
Only as far as it goes. It goes less than half way to the whole truth, to the important truth. . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jun 2017
#33
"view this result positively": Your quest for perfection is the enemy of the good.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jun 2017
#23
I admire Jon Ossoff and appreciate all the hard work that went into his campaign
oberliner
Jun 2017
#39
It is literally true that Ossoff got fewer votes than the Democrat who ran in 2016
oberliner
Jun 2017
#51
PLUS there was some vote suppression type of shenanigans courtesy of Handle.
Madam45for2923
Jun 2017
#22
Your supposed fact is not a fact. It's a 20 point swing in 8 months. Not 40 years.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jun 2017
#42
Hey, maybe I misread the OP, but that's essentially what it seems like they were peddling.
jcmaine72
Jun 2017
#43
Ans WOW did we ever make them pay heavily to just hang on to what they already had.
L. Coyote
Jun 2017
#44