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FBaggins

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36. That, too, is deceptive
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 10:47 AM
Jun 2017

Incumbents REGULARLY outperform someone from the same party running for an open seat. That's why parties focus so hard on open seats.

Also - incumbents in comparatively safe seats rarely get legitimate opponents who are well-financed - and thus their margin of victory is significantly outsized.

Looking at the Clinton/Trump numbers for the same district is not an illegitimate way to evaluate this race. It's certainly closer to "generic R vs. generic D" than looking at a blowout by an incumbent against someone with no name recognition and no fundraising.

For context - read this article from November:

http://www.cbs46.com/story/33632482/who-is-the-ghost-candidate-for-us-6th-district

ATLANTA (CBS46) - Voters are questioning "who is the Democrat U.S. representative 6th district candidate, Rodney Stooksbury?" He is on the Georgia ticket up against Republican Tom Price. Yet, he is virtually unknown. Stooksbury has no candidate picture, website, Facebook, Twitter nor LinkedIn account.

CBS46 went to the address registered to Stooksbury and no answer. We spoke with neighbors who say they've never even heard of him. One voter expresses her frustration on why the candidate would even run? "You would think for a Congressional race, someone who is on the ballot would take it a little more seriously," Emily Novik tells us.

There have been no campaign signs spotted with Rodney Stooksbury's name on it. Voters question if Stooksbury even exists.



Absolutely. Democrats and DU need to stop beating themselves up. They "done good". . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #1
Right. In fact doing what do what so many have been screaming for: Fighting hard EVERYWHERE. LBM20 Jun 2017 #3
We all knew it was a heavy lift...but we gave it our best shot...the Carolina race was too close Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #2
Jon Ossoff got fewer votes than the Democratic candidate who lost the district to Tom Price in 2016. oberliner Jun 2017 #4
This was a special election run-off. ALL turnout was down on a very rainy day to boot. You have to LBM20 Jun 2017 #5
OK oberliner Jun 2017 #6
Please tell me how it was ever going to be easy to win this very red district? It is very hard. LBM20 Jun 2017 #18
It was never going to be easy oberliner Jun 2017 #19
Trump fatigue is not Motownman78 Jun 2017 #30
It isn't an R+22 district FBaggins Jun 2017 #31
If it is R+8 Motownman78 Jun 2017 #45
Because there was an incumbent running against a nobody FBaggins Jun 2017 #52
Your title is DECEPTIVE. Only 24 votes fewer. Republicon got 66,500 votes fewer. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #7
Deceptive? You don't say! I'm shocked, shocked. nt Persisted Jun 2017 #8
What was deceptive about the title oberliner Jun 2017 #10
Kindly direct your inquiries to the poster who made the Persisted Jun 2017 #11
Thanks oberliner Jun 2017 #15
I don't think my take could have been clearer. nt Persisted Jun 2017 #35
OK oberliner Jun 2017 #38
Not at all oberliner Jun 2017 #9
Your accurate title is deceptive and uselessly depressive. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #20
In no way is it it deceptive, but it is depressing oberliner Jun 2017 #21
Your title is deceptive because it is less than a half truth. About a third truth. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #24
The title is 100 percent true oberliner Jun 2017 #28
Only as far as it goes. It goes less than half way to the whole truth, to the important truth. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #33
"view this result positively": Your quest for perfection is the enemy of the good. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #23
I am someone who cannot believe that Trump is POTUS oberliner Jun 2017 #27
I believe Republican tRump is potus because that is reality. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #34
I admire Jon Ossoff and appreciate all the hard work that went into his campaign oberliner Jun 2017 #39
in a special election Egnever Jun 2017 #46
It's not a win oberliner Jun 2017 #47
Sorry that is just nonsense Egnever Jun 2017 #48
OK oberliner Jun 2017 #50
I would say your expectations were unrealistic Egnever Jun 2017 #53
June 9: Poll: Dem Ossoff leads by 7 in Georgia House race oberliner Jun 2017 #55
Wow cubbies01 Jun 2017 #13
Of course it is true oberliner Jun 2017 #16
No I don't think so rockfordfile Jun 2017 #49
It is literally true that Ossoff got fewer votes than the Democrat who ran in 2016 oberliner Jun 2017 #51
That, too, is deceptive FBaggins Jun 2017 #36
So what is your suggestion for this? The Genealogist Jun 2017 #32
Here's my take oberliner Jun 2017 #40
I agree but i find it perplexing Buckeyeblue Jun 2017 #12
It's those damn tax cuts Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #26
It's more then that atreides1 Jun 2017 #29
Yes, so true Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #37
I agree...we have to see the big picture! bresue Jun 2017 #14
I had hope TNNurse Jun 2017 #17
PLUS there was some vote suppression type of shenanigans courtesy of Handle. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #22
Yes it is!! Blue_Roses Jun 2017 #25
Since 1978? Sorry, but no, that isn't all that impressive. jcmaine72 Jun 2017 #41
Your supposed fact is not a fact. It's a 20 point swing in 8 months. Not 40 years. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #42
Hey, maybe I misread the OP, but that's essentially what it seems like they were peddling. jcmaine72 Jun 2017 #43
Ans WOW did we ever make them pay heavily to just hang on to what they already had. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #44
We are making republicans fight in deep red districts. killbotfactory Jun 2017 #54
I really like hearing the positive facts and how we can improve. Jim Beard Jun 2017 #56
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