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coalition_unwilling

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32. I'd like to quote from a very profound post on a FB thread about Occupy (by a 'Michael Caigoy'):
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 03:58 AM
Jul 2012

"Occupy didn't do what most of us had hoped. There are a lot of things about it that stopped being cute real fast. It's a trite consolation prize, but lessons were learned, including one that doesn't bode well for the power structure: the public can surprise you. This time, it settled into its comfortable habits, and that's what fucked the enterprise, IMO. But that thing that happened, in thousands of cities -- a lot of people never saw that coming, believing people too cowed and apathetic. You can't unring that bell.

Things will either get better for some reason (unlikely), or they'll reach the next level. There was a threshold that prompted people to get up, and about, and scream about the elephant in the room. There are other thresholds, and other reactions we've yet to see.

I think it's perfectly fine and healthy to cut our losses on a name associated and method that became impractical in a police state. But holy fuck, we're entering a police state, and now people are getting a whiff of that bullshit. If nothing else, we got the enemy to bare its ugly teeth.

From a personal standpoint, I have no regrets. Some of the proudest moments in my life were catching glimpses of awareness in people, or even hints of uncertainty that the empire is permanent. Even supposing that people had that much chutzpah in them was something I wouldn't have done in, say, August of 2011.

. . . .

In other words, Occupy's goals outpaced the dedication and resources of many, but the real effect, that I can't/won't deny, is that it trained a minority of people in skills that will become relevant as time progresses. And that minority means substantially more than the helpless Daily Show Democrats we had at the vanguard of, at least in America, political awareness.

I acknowledge that I may never take up the responsibilities I'd hoped for in building a better society, and could just sink into a comfortably tedious sort of life. But then, looking at the future, I find that hard to believe."

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When I read the passage above, I found myself saying to myself, "That's it. He's caught it in a few short paragraphs. And the 1% should be very, very worried. They ain't seen nothing yet."

I was just in a back-forth with someone today who claimed to be a Dem, Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #1
Not surprised that there would be Ken Burch Jul 2012 #2
Bullshit. TheWraith Jul 2012 #3
Liberalism was dead when OWS started. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #4
tell that to us Vermonters. cali Jul 2012 #38
Well, with Bernie, you didn't NEED OWS Ken Burch Jul 2012 #47
You want change? Run for precinct delegate! longship Jul 2012 #8
Our Occupy has gotten better, since we became dis-ambiguated by losing our camp and thus patrice Jul 2012 #10
I so agree with T H E W R A I T H. Viva la status quo. nm rhett o rick Jul 2012 #13
LOL! All your wishin' and hopin' won't make it so. Zorra Jul 2012 #15
B-B-But what about the drum circles?! Abra Jul 2012 #16
+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #18
Yup. n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #21
Bullshit yourself. Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #34
It's really nice pintobean Jul 2012 #5
What's so terrible about saying Ken Burch Jul 2012 #6
I have no problem with pintobean Jul 2012 #9
You tell em pintobean. How dare he talk about change. Yuk, change. Viva la status quo rhett o rick Jul 2012 #14
I for one... FirstLight Jul 2012 #7
I support the OWS protests. pacalo Jul 2012 #11
Not True! NashvilleLefty Jul 2012 #12
If it's just a beginning, that's fine. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #43
"But there are a lot of people on this very board pintobean Jul 2012 #48
Who is "WE" loyalsister Jul 2012 #17
Yes we would treestar Jul 2012 #19
... SidDithers Jul 2012 #20
There's no reason to look forward to OWS being extinct. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #22
I was what I am before the Occupy and I will continue being this if it were to disappear. patrice Jul 2012 #23
I'm glad you were involved beforehand and meant no disrespect to your individual work. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #44
The debt ceiling! The debt ceiling! OHH NOOOES! ...remember that crap? Fire Walk With Me Jul 2012 #24
K & R dreamnightwind Jul 2012 #25
They should just admit they want the left to totally die and be done with it. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #45
OWS could be a lot more effective if they actively participated in the electoral process, pnwmom Jul 2012 #26
OWS evidently thinks the electoral process is broken... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #27
This dreamnightwind Jul 2012 #28
The tea baggers have a lot of influence because they weren't afraid to get into the pnwmom Jul 2012 #31
Teabagger talking points come from right wing radio and Fox News.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #37
The moderates in BOTH parties are correct that the extremes will hurt the chance they have to be a karynnj Jul 2012 #40
There aren't ANY moderates in the GOP anymore. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #41
Obama needs Congress to pass laws karynnj Jul 2012 #49
It sure looks that way, especially when I see actual Ronald Reagan quotes from years ago. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2012 #53
My post was in response to someone who wanted OWS to act like the Teabaggers... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #50
They would still have to be independent of OUR party, though. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #46
I have to agree that warts and all - it is the only game in town from a progressive viewpoint that Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #29
Well, here's part of the problem ... Summer Hathaway Jul 2012 #30
I'd like to quote from a very profound post on a FB thread about Occupy (by a 'Michael Caigoy'): coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #32
Or if you want to get off your ass cbrer Jul 2012 #33
Woah! Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #36
Calm down cbrer Jul 2012 #51
I've been involved. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #42
I have not cbrer Jul 2012 #52
Recommended NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #35
I think you put too much weight on OWS karynnj Jul 2012 #39
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