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There is no workable *free market* solution to health insurance. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #1
Exactly right. MineralMan Jun 2017 #3
I agree. But, shockey80 Jun 2017 #2
We should stop doing foolish things. MineralMan Jun 2017 #5
Some are fools, many are just greedy to make a profit off others' misery. brush Jun 2017 #7
also religion. The GOP will oppose all efforts to include abortion in a single payer system. TeamPooka Jun 2017 #33
Yep. progressoid Jun 2017 #45
What they need to do is stop using healthcare as a tax giveback FakeNoose Jun 2017 #4
Republicans are going to have to be dragged, kicking and screaming MineralMan Jun 2017 #6
Here it is.."Once they have universal healthcare, they'll love it, I guarantee." says it all... Stuart G Jun 2017 #15
For example, Germany: DetlefK Jun 2017 #8
I'm opposed to a class-based system. MineralMan Jun 2017 #9
Your analogy of the first class section is very apt! Moostache Jun 2017 #52
Thanks! "We all get there together..." is a great way to put it. MineralMan Jun 2017 #53
But that "bare-bones plan" is still quite comprehesive LiberalLovinLug Jun 2017 #43
Bottom Line: Nobody wants to be sick and need medical care. MineralMan Jun 2017 #10
They aren't able to even improve on it because of the manipulation of the Republican base. RDANGELO Jun 2017 #11
Yes. They continue to come at it from the wrong direction MineralMan Jun 2017 #12
We can't even move forward in Democratically controlled California SHRED Jun 2017 #13
That was debunked already as Raw misquoted what the speaker said cstanleytech Jun 2017 #22
I thought shelving it stops work on it SHRED Jun 2017 #23
No, it just means the current incarnation isnt getting a vote and thats all it means. cstanleytech Jun 2017 #25
They'll keep trying until they get it right. MineralMan Jun 2017 #29
And They Don't Want To. It's Simply Not Part Of Their Belief System. calimary Jun 2017 #14
That has always been the hugest elephant in the room ! They do not want to help Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #21
We can sell it as the pro-business plan since it's the best deal for employers IronLionZion Jun 2017 #16
Why even involve the employer? At present, they stopbush Jun 2017 #30
Employers would save money in a single payer system IronLionZion Jun 2017 #36
another reason: they HATE social programs spanone Jun 2017 #17
Spot on as usual. Moral Compass Jun 2017 #18
Oh I think they can and they could fix it and that they understand it the problem is really that cstanleytech Jun 2017 #19
Common Sense vs. Predatory Sense. byronius Jun 2017 #20
As Churchill said, you could always count on the Americans to do the right thing MiddleClass Jun 2017 #24
They can not fix it. They have no empathy. They can not care about anyone but themselves and their LiberalArkie Jun 2017 #26
Yes. peggysue2 Jun 2017 #27
Oh, I think we'll eventually get single-payer, MineralMan Jun 2017 #31
Yes! peggysue2 Jun 2017 #32
Just because everyone else is doing it and it's cheaper underpants Jun 2017 #28
It's not that they can't fix it. They have the power to do so. They just don't care. Initech Jun 2017 #34
But Nancy Pelosi has already said that's not an option. WoonTars Jun 2017 #35
It is not an option with Republicans in control. MineralMan Jun 2017 #37
I wasn't assigning blame of anything on anyone. WoonTars Jun 2017 #38
I will give you the same advice you gave me. MineralMan Jun 2017 #40
I accept your apology... WoonTars Jun 2017 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author MiddleClass Jun 2017 #47
Didn't Orrin Hatch once admit NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #39
Yes. They know what is a preferable plan. MineralMan Jun 2017 #41
Thanks for this thread. Informative and highlights LuckyLib Jun 2017 #44
Thanks for taking the time to read it! MineralMan Jun 2017 #50
And my compliments to the 'chef'! For this informative sprinkleeninow Jun 2017 #51
Exactly. What is so damned hard to understand??? Hulk Jun 2017 #46
The GOP does not believe in government and so the GOP is bad at governing Gothmog Jun 2017 #48
Yes, I think you're right about that. MineralMan Jun 2017 #49
I'll play devil's advocate. I'd fight you to preserve my HSA option. AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #54
In a universal, single-payer system, you'd have zero MineralMan Jun 2017 #59
So how do we undo the ACA, which actually further entrenched the broken system? MadDAsHell Jun 2017 #55
Single-payer was not possible when ACA was passed. MineralMan Jun 2017 #58
Just yesterday, one of the Right's long time spokesmen parroted the old saw .. Hieronymus Jun 2017 #56
It is the same with schools quaker bill Jun 2017 #57
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