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In reply to the discussion: Jill Stein's latest victory lap demonstrates she was in favor of Trump the entire time. [View all]LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)One that.....and here you can put all the crap that the Republicans represent including the giant turd at the top.
The other that ...and here you can put all the stuff that Democrats represent and why you support them...PLUS more strident environmental policies, public financing of elections, a fairer voting system without the EC.
How can you or anyone who is sane think that these parties want the same thing? And its quite a stretch to say only the leader of that party is for the GOP. That she must be 100x the con artist Trump is to fool millions into thinking she actually cares about these issues following in the footsteps of Nadar and all the good work he did for consumer protections before he got into politics himself. That somehow she can hold up her facade and keep hidden her secret meetings with the Don and Putie at Mar-a-Lago, A giant conspiracy theory.
Things like her demand for a recall in some of the rust belt states was some ruse that she knew Hillary wouldn't win I suppose. In fact perhaps you think she thought that he would actually pick up votes and that would seal the deal for her dear leader Don all the more?
Sorry but none of that makes sense to me. Both Stein and Nadar are NOT Christie and Guiiano. Just stop that false equivalency BS.
You know, and I know, and everybody knows...that that 1% of voters that you are so worried about, are NOT Trump supporters. What they are is competition for the same votes from the same demographic. Progressives, only ones that are more impatient to move the clock forward and catch up to the rest of the world faster. And THAT is why all the hand wringing. At least admit that much.
And that being the case, then it should not be the same level of hatred towards a person representing a party that is our ALLY if you look at their platform compared to Democrats vs Republicans. The more voices that are presenting progressive alternatives around the world the better. The Greens are an international party that promotes everything Trump would be against.
Yes, of course, I understand in a childrens playground kind of way how one may feel like they have lived in the neighborhood a long time and they alone have the friends to stand up to the class bully and his croneys, and the other new girl that only has a couple of friends wants to fight him on her own and so now you don't have as many friends as you'd like in your circle. You wish she'd just move away to another school or something. But, once again, you live in a democracy. She is allowed to say she has better ideas, whether you agree or not. She is allowed to run for student body president too.
You are blaming one person in an abstract idea full of unbelievable conspiracy theories, in an attempt to lash out and find an easy target to invent and then demonize.
And once again my obligatory amendment to assure the trigger fingers that I do NOT think one should have voted for the Green party. I supported the Democrats and Hillary and I also support Sanders who refused to lead the Greens, and campaigned for Hillary and the Democrats because he and we know we live in a time where the country cannot afford the luxury of a protest vote. BUT IT IS NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME EVIL PRO-TRUMP AGENDA. I just find that when you begin an argument with such disingenuousness, you can't make any other serious points.