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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Faces Feisty Democratic Challenger [View all]Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)398. If you say so. I disagree...saying you want a primary for a sitting president on a
nationally syndicated radio show is an attempt to attract interest in the endeavor. President Obama was in trouble early in the race...I worked GOP...I saw the polls. It is miracle that we won in 12.
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This guy was unknown up until about a week or two ago. Why would anyone bother...
George II
Jul 2017
#116
I'll l bet it took a whole hour to put his public postings together. Must be the Russians.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#119
But they were "screen shots" of posts that were deleted. When did he delete them?
George II
Jul 2017
#120
Apparently someone was interested in this guy before the world knew who he was.
George II
Jul 2017
#122
I would say a state actor - with access to Google level search capabilities.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#126
A Magic Eight Ball? I wasn't aware you could use those to find posts on Facebook.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#217
So to recap: his posts are still there and no one used the Tardis to retrieve them.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#223
Now they're claiming the links can't be found, I just checked and they all still work for me.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#412
Jon Svitavsky's bigoted posts are still up on facebook, it only took a minute to find them.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#202
You're welcome, I did some more digging and found all of the ones in that file.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#258
Right? Unfortunately that's the least of Jon's worries if he decides to run.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#285
Exactly! And the silly game of isolating one word (TRIED, omg) from someone's post and then
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#299
If they won't believe direct links to his Facebook page I wonder how they'll try to dismiss this
Rob H.
Jul 2017
#506
I see that some are now "parsing words" and coming up with their own definition of "doxing".
George II
Jul 2017
#531
How DARE you point out the obvious and criticize a candidate who uses bigoted slurs?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#530
That's the end of the debate: Svitavsky ADMITTED TO POSTING THOSE SLURS
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#533
They will also try to change the subject by talking about Bernie. BUT BERNIE THIS AND THAT...
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#539
It is, isn't it? Now that he's admitted to using racist slurs... crickets
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#543
"We don't know for sure that he said that, do we?" was the response last weekend.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#546
So the claim is that because the article is three days old it's irrelevant?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#520
STOP DOXXXXXING HIM BY POSTING ARTICLES AND FACTZ. No DOX PARTY for you!
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#537
Someone edited the definition of the word 'dox' to exclude the word "private"
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#517
How disappointing. (Sigh.) I'll keep my fingers crossed that a viable Democrat challenges the (I).
NurseJackie
Jul 2017
#18
I was saddened to hear the news about Al Giordano. But, I remain hopeful...
NurseJackie
Jul 2017
#85
I'm no expert of Facebook, but I believe he can remove entries from his timeline
citood
Jul 2017
#69
I don't consider calling out bigotry "personal destruction". Of course ymmv.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#227
Lol! Nice try but anyone can simply click the link and read the racial slur for themselves.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#239
So you still support a Dem who uses racial and homophic slurs because he's NOT Bernie.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#247
Well then you should definitely use some racial slurs against African American republicans on DU.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#240
Wait, are you *actually* going to ignore the fact that your candidate used those slurs recently?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#251
You don't need to, those are his posts and no amount of denial is going to make them go away.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#254
You can characterize pointing out his bigotry as "attacking" him all you like
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#294
That's hilarious. I doubt the press will put this much effort into reporting on bogus
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#303
Those links look mighty suspicious, they certainly don't look like Facebook pages....
George II
Jul 2017
#309
Thanks! Yes, that explains a lot. None of the links maligning him so far have appeared
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#310
Even after multiple people successfully viewed the links they're still focused on your use of caps.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#459
Indeed. Seems some people think vetting a candidate is the same thing as doxxing them
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#488
It's odd that people keep ignoring Raw Story's article about Svitavsky's transphobic slur.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#476
They do look nervous. But this guy is known to lose track of his machine:
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#495
They look like the USUAL SUSPECTS but there's another evildoer who can time travel:
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#497
It's odd that people don't know that their tactics to harass people are simply that.
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#478
If Bernie had used those slurs I'm fairly certain the reaction would be quite different.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#374
In order for their theory to work the fake account would've had to have been created years ago.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#386
Exactly, they are so obvious. Looks like some troll forgot to hide this remnant--
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#402
The links are still there so whether or not someone posted in caps is irrelevant. It's still true.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#425
So it's the mobile interface that's confusing them? That could explain it.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#451
Yeah he's definitely out there. He likes to use profanity and call names as well.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#456
Shrug, so he's the Dem nominee, Bernie's the I nominee - they split the vote and we get another R
Arazi
Jul 2017
#31
So in 1948, you'd have backed Strom Thurmond over Henry Wallace in a 2 way race?
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#100
Sure, once again you throw something out and when you get pushback, it's "I never said that".
George II
Jul 2017
#194
No hypothetical mention of of Millard Fillmore or Franklin Pierce in a race against Paul Wellstone?
LanternWaste
Jul 2017
#145
That comparison wouldn't work. Neither Fillmore nor Pierce were independents.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#308
It is only because you'll support a racist and homophobic candidate because he's got a (D) on it
Heaven Sent
Jul 2017
#124
Who once had a D next to his name and still sucked balls. He was still the same guy. Having the D
JCanete
Jul 2017
#161
comforting to pretend rejection of one Democratic candidate is equivalent to rejection of all
LanternWaste
Jul 2017
#148
that is the saddest thing i've ever read. That isn't true at all. Like having a D next to your name
JCanete
Jul 2017
#140
such a thoughtful reply. Thanks. This will totally win over others to your thinking too, since
JCanete
Jul 2017
#149
hey, give a shot...deconstruct the thing I just said if you think there's something fishy
JCanete
Jul 2017
#157
Obviously there are constraints here to "deconstructing" your purist requirements
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#162
I am only talking here about the vapid rhetoric of not even looking past the name into the details
JCanete
Jul 2017
#165
Unfortunately, I am at a loss as to the meaning of this post. what is an imaginary barrier? nt
JCanete
Jul 2017
#171
Even one who claims the 'theory of mental illness' is a 'ridiculous idea'
Cal Carpenter
Jul 2017
#28
If Bernie were to run in the Democratic primary, I predict he would get over the 85% of the vote
karynnj
Jul 2017
#107
that is hardly assuming the worse. That's just shittalking, and bashing fellow democrats here who do
JCanete
Jul 2017
#151
Well, I DO live in VT and if he runs on the Democratic line in the primary, I will write in Bernie
karynnj
Jul 2017
#246
He may be progressive but he is not a Democrat...he has an "I" next to his name.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#322
Who gives a shit whether or not the person is trying to ensure that pride in the party is warranted.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#142
Bernie will crush this nut case. And the Democratic party will stay behind Bernie.
phleshdef
Jul 2017
#16
So if Trump ran as a Democrat with the same message he has now, you would support him?
phleshdef
Jul 2017
#25
You resort to ad hominem attacks when your argument has been shut down with logic.
Foamfollower
Jul 2017
#134
I would say that I am shocked that people would support a candidate like that, but I'm not.
demmiblue
Jul 2017
#32
There are, occasionally, total assholes who are better than the Dem candidate
Nevernose
Jul 2017
#106
Attacking Democrats is also bad news. Just getting those talking points out defending
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#41
Discussion of a Democratic primary inevitably involves attacking some candidate(s).
Jim Lane
Jul 2017
#45
He also supported primarying Debbie Wasserman Schultz out of personal spite.
yallerdawg
Jul 2017
#159
Someone clearly used the Tardis to go back in time and make those posts.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#361
He runs in the Vermont Democratic primaries when the Party doesn't clear the field for him...
yallerdawg
Jul 2017
#76
Is the guy wearing the Pats sweatshirt and floral print shorts the challenger?
Zing Zing Zingbah
Jul 2017
#74
People who want a Democratic challenge to Bernie could do a lot better than this guy.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#77
Bernie didn't want Trump to win, and he did all he could to help HRC carry those states.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#97
Those Bernie voters that refused to vote for Hillary in the general election almost certainly
karynnj
Jul 2017
#110
I will never support a bigot and homophobe! I hope Bernie crushes this man. Nt
LostOne4Ever
Jul 2017
#94
I'm totally ok with this, since Bernie tried to primary a very popular Obama
Blue_Tires
Jul 2017
#125
His words are still on the internet. Looks like he said it on the Thom Hartmann
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#146
He did at one point say that he thought Obama should have a primary challenger, and then
JCanete
Jul 2017
#154
to primary Obama, which he said he didn't want to do after suggesting it. No, the poster
JCanete
Jul 2017
#160
again..he did not try to do this. That is obvious. That was the accusation. Fucking A.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#166
the way you are arguing this, it is clear you know that you are grasping at straws. Did he
JCanete
Jul 2017
#173
energizing progressives is akin to primarying? That's a stretch. Progressives should be energized.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#177
fuck it...that's your story and you are clearly sticking to it. Why i have no idea, but have at it.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#179
Whatever. Senator Sanders should not have any issues defeating this "Democrat"
Heaven Sent
Jul 2017
#213
If all you have is some thought exp on a radio show, then there's really no excuse...
aikoaiko
Jul 2017
#197
Absent any edit to this incoherent post which I think is acknowledging Sanders didn't actually..
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#228
Get back to me when you have some supporting documentation Bernie "tried to primary" Obama.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#186
Bernie Sanders was posting on DU in 2012? I didn't know that. I guess you got me.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#189
Bernie wished some unnamed person would primary Obama is a more accurate statement
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#201
Please do keep up. And read the initial post that started this subthread.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#207
Bernie wished some unnamed person would primary Obama is a more accurate statement
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#260
Prove my "version"? It is the same as Bernie's version. "I think it would be a good idea if ...
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#280
Speaking of reflecting poorly, why must you constantly misrepresent other people's posts?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#284
Do you understand that my post was in part to push back on "Bernie Tried to Primary Obama"?
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#286
Lol! More strawmen about how you're being unfairly maligned? Seriously?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#288
I've read the transcript and listened to the show, Bernie didn't try to primary Obama.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#222
I merely posted a link...showing the subject was discussed that maybe a primary opponent for
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#267
As we've seen in the last few days, lack of success doesn't mean lack of intent.
George II
Jul 2017
#277
Exactly. I don't understand how Pres. Obama is to blame for the 'right' tilt of the agenda when the
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#278
yep, when you see it in black and white, nothing there at all suggests he TRIED to primary Obama.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#295
somebody asked and he said he thought it was a good idea. What does musing mean to you? The crux
JCanete
Jul 2017
#297
You make it sound like a casual conversation. He said it during one of his regular appearances....
George II
Jul 2017
#312
I know. Let it be what he said and not some ridiculous overexageration. Can we do that?
JCanete
Jul 2017
#313
He said he was trying to identify and encourage ''progressives' to run...I would consider Pres.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#324
That's an entirely different issue. I understand frustrations of liberals. I understand their
JCanete
Jul 2017
#327
In polls, when people are presented with progressive ideas, my understanding is that they are
JCanete
Jul 2017
#405
So yes, we are in better shape when we elect Democrats, at least while they are in office,
JCanete
Jul 2017
#407
If you say so. I disagree...saying you want a primary for a sitting president on a
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#398
I see that his %-age of voting with Democrats dropped a little a couple of weeks ago...
George II
Jul 2017
#321
What is misleading about it? As I've pointed out elsewhere, it's not like it was a close vote or...
George II
Jul 2017
#352
I also took it exactly as you stated it -- his percentages went down because of his
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#380
well you already knew Sander's reasons, and acted like he had none. You already knew that
JCanete
Jul 2017
#406
No sir, I didn't know about Sanders' reasons, and I never acted like he had none.....
George II
Jul 2017
#408
why is it highly questionable? Because everybody else went with it? I"m not saying he was right in
JCanete
Jul 2017
#409
who's point is that, except for your own straw-man? I think primaries are fine. I don't like them
JCanete
Jul 2017
#328
the evidence you've brought to my attention is not particularly convincing. okay...so there was a
JCanete
Jul 2017
#335
"Straw man"? What is "straw manish" about what I said? That's a catch all that people....
George II
Jul 2017
#355
So they didn't actually misinterpret the poll. Glad you cleared that up, George.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#418
You're going around in circles now and changing the subject (might you say "moving the goalposts"?)
George II
Jul 2017
#429
No, it's not moving the goalposts or changing the subject to ask you to explain what you meant.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#430
No, I don't think so. When asked you said "some here" misinterpreted the results.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#432
I never said anyone misinterpreted the poll. Do you have the quote where I did?
George II
Jul 2017
#433
Yes, right here: "I disagree with the interpretation of the poll by some here on DU"
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#434
Once again, I never said anyone misinterpreted the poll. Glad we cleared that up.
George II
Jul 2017
#436
Except you haven't cleared anything up. Why did you bring up interpretation at all?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#440
Is this a court of law? No, it's a discussion forum. Read my posts, they speak for themselves.
George II
Jul 2017
#441
Check with the person with whom I went around the block several times, thanks.
George II
Jul 2017
#421
That person is right here and I have no idea what you're talking about.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#422
"Most popular US Senator in their home state".."75 per cent approval rating"...
WoonTars
Jul 2017
#427
That is a much better metric, it makes sense to compare popularity polls. Apples to apples.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#464
I don't either. Why would anyone support a candidate who's clearly racist and homophobic?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#442
I support almost anything that prevents Bernie from spending time causing problems with the party.
stevenleser
Jul 2017
#435
The other thing Svitavsky can accomplish is forcing Sanders in advance to say whether or not
stevenleser
Jul 2017
#438
And also very handy to show which democrats will support any piece of slime...
WoonTars
Jul 2017
#472
Like not having the campaign in states in the mid-west after getting the nomination?
WoonTars
Jul 2017
#471
Has nothing to do with Bernie having a Democratic challenger in the present. nt
stevenleser
Jul 2017
#550
Nope and I have stated publicly here and elsewhere that I do not endorse him
stevenleser
Jul 2017
#552