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herding cats

(19,558 posts)
8. The problem is some people are not too bright.
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 10:38 PM
Jul 2017

(Before I'm jumped on here, I'm incognito and posting on a Democratic forum. This is the place to hash out these harsh realities. I don't say things like this when I deal with voters in the wild.)

They feel something and that becomes their new reality. Then they find others who agree with their feelings and split off in a pack. Even if they're wrong, they exist in a self-validating world of social media and small private groups that reinforces their anger, hatred and biases. They believe to their core that they're correct and they're the victims.

The reality is many Trump supporters had opportunities open to them to better their lives, but they didn't have the guidance, drive or intelligence to utilize them and are now bitter others have done better than they did. This is a fact, and I personally know many such people. Their bitterness has lead to an irrational anger, and blind hatred that some people think we (Democrats) can somehow bridge. We can't. They have to want to heal themselves first, and they don't want to by a majority. They're like addicts lost in their addiction, they don't see themselves as having a problem, and until they do there's no reaching them.

We can't reach people who can't accept they're lost until they have their personal epiphany that leads them into the light. They have to start searching for the light before they can be reached.

They have to look for us before any hope is possible for them.

K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #1
I'll give ya a rec on that point!! boston bean Jul 2017 #2
FUCK THE REPUBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! eom a kennedy Jul 2017 #3
There are some things I don;t stick my hand in!!! Left-over Jul 2017 #32
They have totally gone sour ...and destructive. yuiyoshida Jul 2017 #41
When did it look like Clinton would win? What I remember is that the margin in Kentucky early Hoyt Jul 2017 #4
No, it wasn't the margin in Kentucky Chitown Kev Jul 2017 #10
It was obvious from early votes that things weren't going well. Kentucky had a Dem governor, Hoyt Jul 2017 #12
The margin in Ky was not suppose to be close standingtall Jul 2017 #17
The cities weren't good where she should have done well. I was sick by 8 Eastern. Hoyt Jul 2017 #19
I was watching in the California time zone, and as the evening wore on ... Hekate Jul 2017 #25
Yeah, I seem to remember that too... mountain grammy Jul 2017 #18
I would have been too had I been in Colorado. And we couldn't even get on DU. Hoyt Jul 2017 #20
I drove three miles on a dark mountain road stoned as shit mountain grammy Jul 2017 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Not Ruth Jul 2017 #28
Yep, that's when I decided to go ahead and have a third glass of wine ... KPN Jul 2017 #31
I recall there being about 13 polls. HRC was leading in 12 of them. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #49
I get it, but I felt the loss early in places where I expected her to win big. Hate it, but Hoyt Jul 2017 #53
It wouldn't have been that hard to hack individual districts. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #55
I'm So Sick of Hearing About Reaching Out to rethugs Leith Jul 2017 #5
This!!! calimary Jul 2017 #42
We won't win by pandering to Trump supporters. herding cats Jul 2017 #6
Exactly! EffieBlack Jul 2017 #7
The problem is some people are not too bright. herding cats Jul 2017 #8
I couldn't agree with you more. Boomerproud Jul 2017 #11
I feel you. herding cats Jul 2017 #13
I live in a blue state, but my part of the state murielm99 Jul 2017 #16
You truly understand, herding cats. brer cat Jul 2017 #27
"We can't reach people who can't accept they're lost... Kind of Blue Jul 2017 #43
Righteous rant! It's just amazing that we're expected to see the battle flag of Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #48
"...we're expected to see the battle flag of Kind of Blue Jul 2017 #56
White men most endangered group? Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #58
I'm sorry to hear about your grandmom's beliefs Kind of Blue Jul 2017 #61
I reckon most humans have deep-seated beliefs that don't Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #62
Pointing out they take Alwaysna Jul 2017 #46
Exactly rppper Jul 2017 #34
I love every sentence that you wrote renate Jul 2017 #35
Fuck every last one of them. I have zero fucks to give about any of them. onecaliberal Jul 2017 #9
Cabinet picks Thew Jul 2017 #14
I'm expecting this will lead to cilla4progress Jul 2017 #15
No, what did she write? BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #21
Yes, cilla4progress Jul 2017 #23
Right you are, Effie, at least as regards the pundits and bobbleheads Hekate Jul 2017 #24
I think some are operating under the delusion BainsBane Jul 2017 #26
No one has identified the "working class" as affluent, that I've heard. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #54
We can reach all we want, we won't change the minds of Trump voters. The only thing that will wake Vinca Jul 2017 #29
Have to admit, I am getting pretty frigging tired of Trump voters I know. KPN Jul 2017 #30
On The Five on FoXNews on election night I remember them announcing just as the show ended that..... spixxen Jul 2017 #33
On election night, I don't recall anyone saying it looked hughee99 Jul 2017 #36
Whatever EffieBlack Jul 2017 #37
I'm suggesting you set up a premise where you claimed hughee99 Jul 2017 #39
Oh for fucks sake do you just make shit up and post it? Egnever Jul 2017 #38
Anyone who STILL doesn't think the election was stolen NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #40
My standard response to those who declare that we must "reach out" is "fuck 'em". n/t Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #44
Mine too. 47of74 Jul 2017 #47
That made spew! "Branch Trumpividians"? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #60
Can I Use One of These to "Reach Out"? AndyTiedye Jul 2017 #52
It's probably much safer that way. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #59
I thought we weren't going to rehash the past. We'd better get ready for the future. YOHABLO Jul 2017 #45
I'll reach out to them..... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #50
Who's Trump? Throck Jul 2017 #51
The Democratic Party has been "reaching out" to the American right for my entire life misanthrope Jul 2017 #57
Yeah, I've been ignoring that bullshit talking point since 2008... Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #63
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