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Javaman

(62,439 posts)
58. yes and no...
Mon Jul 17, 2017, 09:55 AM
Jul 2017

yes, it's all been a work in progress to get us to this point, but I can point to one single moment that either sped things up or was the actual real cause for what we are in at the moment: the supreme court naming george w. moron* president.

that one single ruling (which was beyond unconstitutional) was accelerated the right wings program.

Without that, Gore would have been president.

And more that likely, I believe, Obama still would have been the follow up.

there would have still been a right wing movement, but I think by that point they would have been effectively been cut off at the knees.

that is why, to this day, I will never ever forgive all those justices who chose to decide to install the dimwit* as president. nor will I never forgive sandra day o'conner. she knew exactly what she was doing was wrong and still did it.

Agree wryter2000 Jul 2017 #1
Careful using that phrase, "Chickens coming home to roost". gtar100 Jul 2017 #2
"a slight tinge of guilt perhaps?" FiveGoodMen Jul 2017 #91
The 80's were awful. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #3
Yes! Alice11111 Jul 2017 #61
that's what I tell people all the time.. this didn't happen overnight nini Jul 2017 #4
all we have to do is fix the fucking radio now certainot Jul 2017 #67
My first election was in 1980 and I was 18. I do not have fond memories. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #5
And he took away my Pell grant. progressoid Jul 2017 #44
the texas textbook commission- the beginning of the dumbing down of the u.s. mopinko Jul 2017 #6
I think of the 80s as "The Great Abdication" . . . hatrack Jul 2017 #7
Even Dennis Miller Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #9
I once said that my Boy Scout troop could've taken Grenada.... lastlib Jul 2017 #13
Well, we can't have people focusing on 220 dead Marines in Beirut can we? misanthrope Jul 2017 #28
People forget just how much this country indulges republican fuck wittery Cosmocat Jul 2017 #52
Very well said! misanthrope Jul 2017 #27
well said, noble hatrack 0rganism Jul 2017 #39
the reagan bush treason was discovered but they killed the fairness doctrine certainot Jul 2017 #66
Reagan tripled the national debt and the cons called him a hero BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #8
And don't forget Mr.Bill Jul 2017 #10
And the ascendancy of the so-called Religious Right BeyondGeography Jul 2017 #12
Yeah, the 80s debacle in science, environment and public health . . . . hatrack Jul 2017 #60
The warnings about Greenhouse Effect had been out misanthrope Jul 2017 #85
Except Keynes would have kicked him in the balls for doing what he did jmowreader Jul 2017 #17
That changed in the years preceding Reagan's election. misanthrope Jul 2017 #30
Not to mention . . . HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #57
I remember the 80's as the beginning of the assault against women katmondoo Jul 2017 #11
Well, the beginning of the backlash against whatever feminism had been able to accomplish in the 60s meadowlander Jul 2017 #108
The 80's should be a lesson for everyone who thinks that "Burn It Down" VermontKevin Jul 2017 #14
70's, We were not much better... mgardener Jul 2017 #15
Ronald Reagan The Wizard Jul 2017 #16
Thank you Alice11111 Jul 2017 #63
You're exactly right, I love the eighties, why wouldn't a 19-year-old MiddleClass Jul 2017 #18
"Bill Clinton was a breath of fresh air" misanthrope Jul 2017 #31
You had to be convicted of a crime, to be hurt by that MiddleClass Jul 2017 #33
America did not want an FDR at the time. Dawson Leery Jul 2017 #99
Sometimes the ugly truth pops up and stops me in my tracks. democrank Jul 2017 #19
Agree with your analysis bucolic_frolic Jul 2017 #20
Greed, for the lack of a better term, is good MiddleClass Jul 2017 #22
In the 80s we got Raygun. It all began there. kairos12 Jul 2017 #21
John Lennon murdered in Dec.1980. ms liberty Jul 2017 #23
The 80s was a desert, as far as music. I'm unfamiliar with a lot of the... Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #24
I respectfully disagree Alpeduez21 Jul 2017 #53
Most of those you name who ARE relevant... Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #73
Wow, you have missed a lot!! Coventina Jul 2017 #59
50 yrs from now, most people won't know who those people are or those songs. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #72
All righty then. Coventina Jul 2017 #74
More prophecy. LanternWaste Jul 2017 #87
I'm not criticizing people & music you like to hurt your feelings. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #95
I dig a lot of that list and others in this tangent misanthrope Jul 2017 #86
I think the quality stuff (as discussed here) will be durable, however. Coventina Jul 2017 #92
Yup. Its not our fault. It is our parents' fault. TomCADem Jul 2017 #25
I do see the reality of what was going on in the world in the eighties. Doreen Jul 2017 #26
For me, it was the Nixon pardon. displacedtexan Jul 2017 #29
We also came dangerously close to a nuclear war ThoughtCriminal Jul 2017 #32
Reagan made greed and idiocy fashionable Skittles Jul 2017 #34
Someone's relationship with a period in time is pretty personal Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2017 #35
yuppies. spanone Jul 2017 #36
Great writing! Spot on. BadGimp Jul 2017 #37
America chose greed. Dawson Leery Jul 2017 #38
Yep, I thought it took guts to deliver his "malaise" speech misanthrope Jul 2017 #41
Yes, the 80's were a belligerent repudiation of Jimmy Carter and the direction he laid out for us. NBachers Jul 2017 #62
In all fairness, I think the SUV trend revved up in the 1990s. misanthrope Jul 2017 #84
How did you like the 90s? oberliner Jul 2017 #40
In some ways misanthrope Jul 2017 #42
It was exciting to finally have a Democrat in the White House oberliner Jul 2017 #43
I thought bigotry was less excusable as well. Lyricalinklines Jul 2017 #46
NOPE - it got worse Cosmocat Jul 2017 #56
I agree with your timely, well written post. I'd like to add... Lyricalinklines Jul 2017 #45
Maybe it began with the invention of television BainsBane Jul 2017 #47
The 80s was the start of the class war against the middle and working class. Yavin4 Jul 2017 #48
I never understood runaway inflation of the seventies MiddleClass Jul 2017 #81
Yup that scum Rayguns started the ball rolling workinclasszero Jul 2017 #49
Well written, sir! chwaliszewski Jul 2017 #50
The fall of nixon madokie Jul 2017 #51
I can't despise the 80's because I was a child then. Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2017 #54
same crazycatlady Jul 2017 #100
Yeah, I thought the 80's were good times Zing Zing Zingbah Jul 2017 #105
I don't remember the Challenger crazycatlady Jul 2017 #106
The 80's were when I realized how soulless and empty this country really is. alarimer Jul 2017 #55
We had a president who asked nothing of us and blamed all ills on "the other". Boomerproud Jul 2017 #104
yes and no... Javaman Jul 2017 #58
Without Reagan, that SCOTUS doesn't exist. misanthrope Jul 2017 #89
I remember it too well. byronius Jul 2017 #64
Greed is good. shockey80 Jul 2017 #65
Trumpism is zentrum Jul 2017 #68
I remember election night, 1980. TygrBright Jul 2017 #69
Meh the 80s we're awesome Egnever Jul 2017 #70
Please, please do not forget Reagan's vicious . . FairWinds Jul 2017 #71
Well said mdbl Jul 2017 #75
Totally in agreement with the exception of music. YOHABLO Jul 2017 #76
As I explained to another poster, the good stuff was mostly underground misanthrope Jul 2017 #90
Bingo. This coup started with Reagan. broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #77
Reagan's trick, bad decisions and poor educations are the roosting chickens. Democrats_win Jul 2017 #78
Great rant! Also, Reagan colluded with Iran to manipulate U.S. election and in doing so kept suffragette Jul 2017 #79
k and r!!!!!! niyad Jul 2017 #80
I grew up in the DC Suburbs, went off to College in 1978, came back in 1983 Burma Jones Jul 2017 #82
and the teevee gnewz still sucking raygun's balls. pansypoo53219 Jul 2017 #83
Very good analysis Hekate Jul 2017 #88
I usually find Bill Maher obnoxious, but he accurately nailed Reagan for our problems today. robertpaulsen Jul 2017 #93
Precisely misanthrope Jul 2017 #97
Thanks. Watching it later. underpants Jul 2017 #101
Completely agree with your assessment GetRidOfThem Jul 2017 #94
I agree 100% joanbarnes Jul 2017 #96
This is when the Republicans began really using propaganda - Newt Gingrich's "Contract With America kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2017 #98
Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous underpants Jul 2017 #102
This was my father's theme toward the end of his life Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #103
Good for your father in dedicating his life to education misanthrope Jul 2017 #109
That is when Newt Gingrich came up with his propaganda tools - used to this day. It was cited kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2017 #107
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