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Hekate

(90,618 posts)
19. Voter suppression is definitely THE issue. As for "wealthy supporters"....
Thu Jul 20, 2017, 11:39 AM
Jul 2017

...we actually have them, and gods bless them.

What I find hilarious (well, maddening, really) is the knee-jerk hostile reactions of some to any reference whatsoever to a "donor class" of Democrats. Kamala Harris was reported to have recently participated in a meeting of Democrats of the donor class, and the buzz is she might be garnering support for a presidential run. Amid the flutter of excitement here at that prospect of her candidacy were the usual gripes that amount to "REAL Democrats wear sackcloth and carry a begging bowl, and the rich can go to hell."

sigh

As far as I can tell, we are lucky to have some millionaire/billionaire Democrats. They are Democrats, for gods' sake. There are not as many of them as there are conservatives, and we should kind of cherish and nurture them, not lump them in with the Kochs. We need them on our side.

People like the Kochs, DeVoses, et al. are powerfully driven by their ideology, often religious. When you believe you have The One And Only God on your side, you can do amazing things. Jihads and Crusades, the slaughter of millions, that kind of thing.

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The idea of moving left is not to pick up previous moderates, but to attract previous non-voters. flor-de-jasmim Jul 2017 #1
I know that. Is there any evidence that it actually works? DanTex Jul 2017 #2
It won't happen. We have no time to waste on this nonsense. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #5
I'm open to the idea that it's possible, if it were accompanied by evidence. DanTex Jul 2017 #8
"Move to the left" is the wrong term. Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #3
Sure but now we're talking marketing rather than substance. DanTex Jul 2017 #4
the 'new deal' is 80 years old...and will disappear if the alt-left (green riffraff) Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #6
By that logic the Constitution is 200 + years old. Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #9
Obamacare. Barack_America Jul 2017 #7
Hm. I remember the continuous screeching here that Obama was "spelunking" (caving in)... Hekate Jul 2017 #17
There are aspects of your argument GaryCnf Jul 2017 #10
THIS! 90's Dems had moved to the right of Nixon. Greybnk48 Jul 2017 #12
Democrats are at their weakest point in decades. Blue_true Jul 2017 #11
Above all Dems need to deal with voter suppression and obviously hackable tblue37 Jul 2017 #13
I really believe with the Sanders elimate, that is creating the Democrats have a problem is the pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #15
Voter suppression is definitely THE issue. As for "wealthy supporters".... Hekate Jul 2017 #19
Dems are at their weakest point in many decades pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #14
When the other side promotes outright lunacy, it's foolish to try to stake out a middle ground. nt killbotfactory Jul 2017 #16
It's hard to say what anyone wants--the Dems get more votes, but less representation Starry Messenger Jul 2017 #18
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