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In reply to the discussion: HR 676 !!! - Let's put Single Payer into the conversation: [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)SUPPORT FOR SINGLE-PAYER IS MALLEABLE WHEN GIVEN OPPOSING ARGUMENTS
While a slim majority favors the idea of a national health plan at the outset, a prolonged national debate over making such a dramatic change to the U.S. health care system would likely result in the public being exposed to multiple messages for and against such a plan. The poll finds the publics attitudes on single-payer are quite malleable, and some people could be convinced to change their position after hearing typical pro and con arguments that might come up in a national debate.
For example, when those who initially say they favor a single-payer or Medicare-for-all plan are asked how they would feel if they heard that such a plan would give the government too much control over health care, about four in ten (21 percent of the public overall) say they would change their mind and would now oppose the plan, pushing total opposition up to 62 percent.
Similarly, when this group is told such a plan would require many Americans to pay more in taxes or that it would eliminate or replace the Affordable Care Act, total opposition increases to 60 percent and 53 percent, respectively.
http://www.kff.org/health-reform/poll-finding/data-note-modestly-strong-but-malleable-support-for-single-payer-health-care/
Also - I haven't heard a "keeping our powder dry" argument against a full out single payer or bust legislative effort. Coming so soon on the heels of the Vermont single payer failure, there needs to be a very clear indication that legislators have learned from that failure, because until then I don't think anyone will be willing to risk a repeat of that on the national level (that's not "keeping powder dry" that's just common sense). And no, the answer 'big pharma and or big insurance killed it" isn't going to enlighten us about how to make it work next time. Unfortunately, Sanders refuses to talk about it at all, and that indicates he either can't or won't learn from it in the bill he is putting forward.
BTW -Sanders has also said that there is no way that a Single Payer bill would pass right now, but he's going to support bringing the bill to the floor anyway. I don't see how that's different from the scores of Obamacare repeal bills presented during Obama's administration.
https://www.vox.com/2017/7/24/15915406/bernie-sanders-medicare-single-payer