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MiddleClass

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82. Not a lawyer, not even a paralegal

Thu Aug 3, 2017, 05:38 PM

Aug 2017

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But somebody on MTP told Chuck, investigations, use whatever grand jury is already impaneled to subpoena documents. What one reason you would impanel your own would be ongoing multiple involved witnesses, subpoenas, indictments

Hopefully a legal whiz could help us out on this

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MUELLER IMPANELS GRAND JURY [View all] sunonmars Aug 2017 OP

this is very significant. drray23 Aug 2017 #1

Apparently he did it weeks ago, suggests he has the goods and is going for more. sunonmars Aug 2017 #2

maybe they already have returned sealed indictments drray23 Aug 2017 #5

Correct. H2O Man Aug 2017 #55

:) BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2017 #113

Indictments almost certain and all the necessary evidence ready to present to jurors. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #62

Trump was indicted months ago per Louise Mensch Not Ruth Aug 2017 #126

He is going to announce that the reprobate Gov. Of W. Va. is going "republican" oldmanandthesea Aug 2017 #3

Aha! That's what this tweet is about: Kingofalldems Aug 2017 #4

That's a new one BumRushDaShow Aug 2017 #19

Did trump know this was coming and his rally "announcement" is the news diversion? Mrs. Overall Aug 2017 #6

suggests No - as trumps "counsel" was shocked....panic has set in at the WH. sunonmars Aug 2017 #8

The White House favors anything that accelerates the conclusion of his work fairly." TexasTowelie Aug 2017 #7

I think this is an important quote from the article: MelissaB Aug 2017 #9

He's ramping it up, he added an "illegal foreign bribe" lawyer yesterday tells us everything. sunonmars Aug 2017 #12

This guy? Native Aug 2017 #40

Official White House comment: Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2017 #10

LOL! You made me click. nolabear Aug 2017 #68

There haven't been many (any?) leaks coming from Mueller's team, have there? NurseJackie Aug 2017 #11

That was what was driving me nuts in anticipation MiddleClass Aug 2017 #33

Not to my knowledge NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #91

This is a good step in the right direction Gothmog Aug 2017 #13

I'm cackling like a witch right now. SaschaHM Aug 2017 #14

More like DEFCON 1. GallopingGhost Aug 2017 #25

It's DEFCON 1, Cocked pistol: Nuclear war is imminent sarge43 Aug 2017 #67

Must be why Hannity did a hit piece on Mueller yesterday. WhollyHeretic Aug 2017 #15

Someone's getting indicted C_U_L8R Aug 2017 #16

Have a fun vacation, and just keep repeating "Crooked Hillary" ROFLMAO L. Coyote Aug 2017 #70

Nuclear war with NK in the next few days.., maryellen99 Aug 2017 #17

Military generals would invoke the 25th Amendment Duppers Aug 2017 #31

Let's hope so..nt maryellen99 Aug 2017 #36

Mattis might. Kelly would help push the button. Nt adigal Aug 2017 #45

The system isn't actually engineered to allow that. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #65

It would seem that Congress would call Duppers Aug 2017 #74

Congress (likely) couldn't stop Trump Massacure Aug 2017 #115

Slight correction: Wednesdays Aug 2017 #120

Thank you! Duppers Aug 2017 #122

Generals cannot invoke the 25th Massacure Aug 2017 #114

Thank You! Duppers Aug 2017 #121

To investigate Benghazi??!! progressoid Aug 2017 #18

! Kali Aug 2017 #90

A D.C. based grand jury! Nice! Glimmer of Hope Aug 2017 #20

Indeed. nt SunSeeker Aug 2017 #132

BOOM SHAAK-A-LACKA Nailzberg Aug 2017 #21

"continue for months" berksdem Aug 2017 #22

Are you part of a military family too? Deb Aug 2017 #30

Military/Defense Dept seems to running policy Juliusseizure Aug 2017 #56

I am mercuryblues Aug 2017 #77

Enjoy the sweet things in life, you deserve it Deb Aug 2017 #107

I don't understand why Special Counsel would need to impanel a grand jury. Sunlei Aug 2017 #23

grand juries are the ones that can return indicments. drray23 Aug 2017 #26

Yes, I think if a GJ indicts the trial happens a lot sooner. mobeau69 Aug 2017 #34

There are only two reasons for a grand jury in this case Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #32

he wouldn't be pulling attorneys from the private sector as recently as yesterday if it is #2. Native Aug 2017 #44

Wouldn't reason 2 be inconsistent w/hiring Juliusseizure Aug 2017 #48

Probably. Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #51

Assange has a third reason, no evidence. LOL. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #76

He a moron more and more every day... Lee-Lee Aug 2017 #81

He is also worried because he is part of a criminal conspiracy. He may be indicted too. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #83

When the court of public opinion holds absolutely ZERO sway in the ultimate disposition Mr. Ected Aug 2017 #96

Self delusion requires constant reinforcement and the very best lies, only the best lies, bigly lies L. Coyote Aug 2017 #101

CNN was saying this on the radio today Not Ruth Aug 2017 #128

Per Louise Mensch, there have been grand juries in EDVA for months Not Ruth Aug 2017 #127

Nicole Wallace's guests are saying that Mueller just needs more space for BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #50

Yes, that is entirely possible MiddleClass Aug 2017 #24

2nd one, already one for Flynn...this is getting EXCITING Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #27

Flynn had financial ties to Cambridge Analytica. They coordinated with Russian Intelligence UCmeNdc Aug 2017 #123

I wish I could take credit for what I am about to say Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #137

Trump has a lawyer named Ty Cobb? That's rich! Every avid baseball fan knows Still In Wisconsin Aug 2017 #28

He is related to the same MiddleClass Aug 2017 #35

They are related. Sophiegirl Aug 2017 #38

Ty Cobb wanted to play 47of74 Aug 2017 #52

LOL SunSeeker Aug 2017 #133

OWWWWWWW! Botany Aug 2017 #29

Waiting for Trump to unleash the bling bedazzled squirrels as countermeasures. nt procon Aug 2017 #37

GOOD!! ailsagirl Aug 2017 #39

MSNBC is officially calling it a "Grand Jury Investigation". Even though it is the same investigate BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #41

I think Trump resigns in August, may never even go back to DC adigal Aug 2017 #42

this has always been the thing i never quite understood - with all that baggage, why would you run? Native Aug 2017 #46

Since the earliest Grrek tragedies, hubris takes people down nt adigal Aug 2017 #47

Money from Russia is reason enough for Trump world wide wally Aug 2017 #59

Ego Is Certainly SDJay Aug 2017 #61

If I could get inside his mind Juliusseizure Aug 2017 #66

Nice! Native Aug 2017 #87

Malignant narcissist sociopaths mcar Aug 2017 #69

Pence just got in on Trumps' coat tails. maddiemom Aug 2017 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author maddiemom Aug 2017 #73

Pence might think twice. safeinOhio Aug 2017 #75

Never humbled_opinion Aug 2017 #80

I agree...he will resign soon. WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2017 #84

And they will be like W and Cheney...never able to walk on a street again adigal Aug 2017 #86

Boy, would I love to be on that jury. trof Aug 2017 #43

Yeah me too 47of74 Aug 2017 #53

Where would you find an impartial jury? Juliusseizure Aug 2017 #64

That's the thing ailsagirl Aug 2017 #88

Me three. tazkcmo Aug 2017 #57

I get a small degree of satisfaction in imaging the con man squirming in Enoki33 Aug 2017 #49

I'm thinking of him calling his safeinOhio Aug 2017 #78

Love it .. Hieronymus Aug 2017 #54

Grand Juries are not investigative. They are there to decide whether to indict. Blue_true Aug 2017 #58

Not a lawyer, not even a paralegal MiddleClass Aug 2017 #82

There are several DU members who are Attornies. Maybe they can weigh in. Blue_true Aug 2017 #85

I'm no longer practicing but... More_Cowbell Aug 2017 #116

Thank you for narrowing them down, it helps perception a lot MiddleClass Aug 2017 #138

They can issue subpoenas. That's investigative. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #97

Serious question: how do they assign a judge to this Grand Jury hearing? FakeNoose Aug 2017 #104

I don't know. Blue_true Aug 2017 #105

OK maybe somebody else here knows FakeNoose Aug 2017 #106

"possible financial crimes, some unconnected to the 2016 elections" Second Grand Jury too!! L. Coyote Aug 2017 #60

So....how would DU react if Mueller, in the end, finds no evidence other than circumstantial? LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #63

not even remotely possible Native Aug 2017 #89

"Fitzmas" Cosmocat Aug 2017 #98

I'm not sayin LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #124

Not possible. So much obvious obstruction, collusion, lying, and we don't even have the tax returns flibbitygiblets Aug 2017 #100

Who's got two tiny hands and is acting guilty as everloving fuck? Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #109

I dunno. The team he is assembling didn't put their careers on hold Ruby the Liberal Aug 2017 #110

He admitted to obstruction already More_Cowbell Aug 2017 #118

Is "financial crimes" enough? LiberalLovinLug Aug 2017 #125

He's openly violated the emoluments clause Kentonio Aug 2017 #135

Unless I do not understand the legal issue here (a distinct possibility) doesn't the Grand Jury Still In Wisconsin Aug 2017 #72

Show time! n/t Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2017 #79

Don Jr and Jared will probably be the first two witnesses they subpoena? kentuck Aug 2017 #92

As long as pence goes down, too. he can't be the knight in shining armor mucifer Aug 2017 #93

Time for my favorite Trump Gif! JHan Aug 2017 #94

Bring it on! workinclasszero Aug 2017 #95

If Mueller's strategy is to use indictments and plea bargains GopherGal Aug 2017 #99

Yes Vinnie From Indy Aug 2017 #102

And for this crew, it will end up a purgery trap. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2017 #111

Could you imagine if tRump went under oath Ken Star style MrPurple Aug 2017 #130

I hope Trump doesn't slither away. aikoaiko Aug 2017 #103

Only if it was Ivanka. I honestly don't think he cares about any of the rest. briv1016 Aug 2017 #108

Big news! Mueller issues subpoenas over Jr.'s Russia meeting! machoneman Aug 2017 #112

Target Rich Environment gristy Aug 2017 #117

There is another reason to impanel a Grand Jury. Scruffy1 Aug 2017 #119

Kind of appropriate that the lawyer representing the racism President is Ty Cobb MrPurple Aug 2017 #129

If Trump gets a choice of him or his kids go to jail...what does he choose? sunonmars Aug 2017 #131

Yep. He already threw Don Jr. under the bus. nt SunSeeker Aug 2017 #134

The noose of treason is tightening around this administration. PatrickforO Aug 2017 #136

Prosecutors are working diligently bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #139