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12. Would you prefer a Congress that has Nancy Pelosi as Speaker with 50 anti-choice Democrats
Fri Aug 4, 2017, 01:36 PM
Aug 2017

providing her the majority, or one with Paul Ryan as Speaker with zero anti-choice Democrats?

Under which of those scenarios do you think women's civil rights would be better served?

THANK YOU! Zoonart Aug 2017 #1
I think most of us have some understanding of how politics work ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #2
best way to block that is to have Democrats as House Speaker and Senate Maj leader geek tragedy Aug 2017 #5
There is a difference between being personally against abortion ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #17
Reid had an anti-choice voting record--it went beyond "personal/moral opposition." geek tragedy Aug 2017 #23
Then call it what is fucking is. If someone is personally against abortion but doesn't vote to boston bean Aug 2017 #38
"personally against abortion" isn't a political position, it's politicianspeak geek tragedy Aug 2017 #41
do more research. boston bean Aug 2017 #45
I provided that link in another place in this thread. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #46
I AM concerned ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #39
for anti-choice Dems, as long as they understand they support the larger agenda geek tragedy Aug 2017 #62
This is gotten quite redundant, it's heading into "I'm owed beer and travel money" territory elehhhhna Aug 2017 #72
An excellent response. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #53
But we're not better off with R's in the majority. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #71
Just another purity test we don't need. Tiggeroshii Aug 2017 #3
Yes we can't afford privacy for women, or safe medical procedures, elehhhhna Aug 2017 #52
Serious question....and I'm not being condescending here Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #4
it's a nebulous concept. nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #6
Certainly seems so in some threads! Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #9
No, it's not nebulous at all. The Cambridge Dictionary spells it out clearly LanternWaste Aug 2017 #21
How about the Hyde Amendment--is that a litmus test for being pro-choice or anti-choice? nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #24
The Hyde Amendment in my opinion is bad policy, it is not however a restriction on abortion. boston bean Aug 2017 #42
that's very, very close to my take on it. nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #43
But that is, in effect, a restriction. guillaumeb Aug 2017 #54
Defining Pro/Anti-Choice is like trying to nail jello to a tree. mwooldri Aug 2017 #31
It's as if the real argument is lost in the language loyalsister Aug 2017 #37
In my mind, abortion should never be a political issue. mwooldri Aug 2017 #7
the main disputes at the federal level are (1) judges and (2) spending. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #10
How very reasonable... lapucelle Aug 2017 #8
Would you prefer a Congress that has Nancy Pelosi as Speaker with 50 anti-choice Democrats geek tragedy Aug 2017 #12
I have a policy against lapucelle Aug 2017 #29
It's not hypothetical. Its' the difference between 2007-2010 and 2011-present geek tragedy Aug 2017 #33
Of course it's a hypothetical, lapucelle Aug 2017 #44
Republicans have controlled the House since 2010. nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #47
I worked very, very hard to elect a Democratic congresswoman lapucelle Aug 2017 #68
Does the same theory apply with the criminal bill in Clinton's 90's? Or possibly NAFTA. DoodAbides Aug 2017 #11
How did that affect the AA community. Now that I am actually thinking about it, interesting question DoodAbides Aug 2017 #14
I will just say this: geek tragedy Aug 2017 #16
"close to a zero percent chance "... DoodAbides Aug 2017 #22
Okay, so we remain a minority party for the next several decades geek tragedy Aug 2017 #26
There is no way you can even get that statement with anything being discussed. DoodAbides Aug 2017 #30
you just putatively excommunicated all anti-abortion voters from the Democratic Party. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #32
I did no such thing. They did by their inability to separate state vs religion. DoodAbides Aug 2017 #35
Back it up there! GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #70
NAFTA??? GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #69
Of course that explains why Pelosi has to be replaced BainsBane Aug 2017 #13
Goodness. I have to try and wrap my mind around this statement. DoodAbides Aug 2017 #15
Oh, yeah BainsBane Aug 2017 #20
I am game. It is that important. To me, to lives that are affected by law. nt DoodAbides Aug 2017 #25
2018. I am ready for you. DoodAbides Aug 2017 #27
I do love the smarts and thinking minds of the Democratic Party. nt DoodAbides Aug 2017 #18
Who refused to denounce the GOP efforts to repeal the ACA? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #19
Ryan BainsBane Aug 2017 #28
Can't tell the Ryans apart without a scorecard... lapucelle Aug 2017 #34
derp. From your link: geek tragedy Aug 2017 #40
Derp indeed. lapucelle Aug 2017 #49
One should generally know the facts before making claims about them. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #36
I agree. lapucelle Aug 2017 #50
Be careful. You might hurt something ... GeorgeGist Aug 2017 #48
There used to be more pro-life Democrats and pro-choice Republicans. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #51
a good 25-30% of voters tend to be social conservatives but economically liberal geek tragedy Aug 2017 #55
That would describe me. Willie Pep Aug 2017 #56
Manchin and Donnelly and Casey had zero hesitation to go to the matts for Medicaid nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #57
YOur stance on this in multiple threads is appalling and disappointing obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #58
probably because I am not doing a good job of explaining it. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #59
But you'd be asking Dems to betray their constituents leftstreet Aug 2017 #60
not really. They don't have to betray constituents if they never have to face a vote. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #61
Oh. You said protect a woman's right to choose leftstreet Aug 2017 #63
Exactly. The best case scenario from Congress on abortion is no legislation. nt geek tragedy Aug 2017 #64
We'll have to disagree leftstreet Aug 2017 #65
the status quo is kind of a disaster right now BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #66
No. 6000eliot Aug 2017 #67
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