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In reply to the discussion: This may be unpopular, but I'm ok with running segregationist Dems if it will win elections. [View all]frazzled
(18,402 posts)31. Maybe like Jimmy Carter?
Let's recall that at the time he was running for president, he belonged to a "whites only" Southern Baptist church, and he didn't leave the Southern Baptists until 2000, citing its views on women. As president, he had a less than stellar record on racial issues and policy, and incurred the wrath of key black leaders such as Jesse Jackson and Vernon Jordan.
His time as governor was pretty much worse:
During the heat of the campaign Carter chose to pay a visit to one of the segregated academies in a move heavy with symbolism. At the school Carter pledged to work on behalf of the all-white private schools. Unveiling his strategy spurning the African American vote, Carter boasted that he could win the election without a single black vote. During the campaign, Carter praised Lester Maddox became close to George Wallace, and defended white resistance to integration. Carter disingenuously maintained that blacks too were against integration. Carter went further, however, to the point of using morally questionable tactics based on an appeal to the racial prejudice of his Georgia white constituency. Most notably, a photo of Carters opponent, Carl Sanders, with black members of the Atlanta Hawks basketball team celebrating a playoff victory, was widely distributed in an effort to link him to blacks in the minds of white voters. While Carter did no additional campaigning in black communities, he won enjoying the support of the most notorious racists in the state obtaining over 49 percent of the vote.
As Governor of Georgia, Carter seemed to feel that symbolism would be sufficient to satisfy the political needs of the states African Americans. Carter is credited with making Martin Luther Kings birthday a state holiday on January 15, 1973, and later unveiling a portrait of the slain black leader in the states capital building. Yet, at a more meaningful level of policy, Governor Carter pushed for an anti-busing amendment to the Constitution. This had the advantage of taking the issue out of the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.
http://www.blacksandpresidency.com/jimmycarter.php
Now, do I think Jimmy Carter is or was a racist? No. But I think that at times he either condoned it or played on it for political expediency.
I think there's a difference between the issues being discussed here. Is it at all common, or even possible, for a person to hold segregationist views but vote for integrationist policies? I'm not sure that has happened very often. But it is entirely possible for a person to hold personal views that are against abortion but vote easily to extend choice to others. We've seen a slew of (often Catholic) politicians do exactly that. Joe Biden and John Kerry are two who come to mind. Here's Kerry explaining the difference between his personal beliefs on abortion and his view about imposing his personal beliefs on others. I can't imagine the same explanation working for a segregationist:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4540345/john-kerry-abortion-2004
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This may be unpopular, but I'm ok with running segregationist Dems if it will win elections. [View all]
LexVegas
Aug 2017
OP
this was a direct reference to getting behind anti-choice dems in certain districts.
niyad
Aug 2017
#14
True that. The only difference I see within the Democratic Party, is one is more likely
DoodAbides
Aug 2017
#12
I have a few more names for them, but I will not subject posters here to such language.
niyad
Aug 2017
#16
I understand the sarcasm, but lets discuss this with actual events. The Civil Rights Act
still_one
Aug 2017
#17
No anti-choice dems who don't also support mandatory blood, bone marrow and kidney donations for men
KitSileya
Aug 2017
#23
This may be unpopular, but I'm ok running with Obama if it will win the presidency
Ms. Toad
Aug 2017
#27
maybe thats what the GOP thought as well and look what happened to them ( and us!)
samnsara
Aug 2017
#51