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JHan

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46. I typed in my post what he could have said, he's the political expert..

Sat Aug 5, 2017, 01:25 PM

Aug 2017

by now he should have a response for questions about what the democratic party stands for without pissing off the dem base. Is that too much to ask?

Litmus tests pertain to pragmatic reasoning.. I explained in my post why "pragmatism" in this area is a failure for democrats when it comes to choice.

Similarly, since environmental regulations and global warming are a sore point for a lot of folks in red states, if the DCCC made an announcement that climate change deniers are welcome in the party, it would be a good move I take it? Dems just might get more votes in Red States if they signaled a willingness to ease up on environmental protections and go full hog with coal - that would also be fine, in the interest of pragmatism correct?

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Do you support concessions to banks to win elections? [View all] BainsBane Aug 2017 OP

well played NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #1

I wish I could say I am shocked BainsBane Aug 2017 #2

I am with you. MLAA Aug 2017 #3

I am as well. Then again, I've been pissed off since about 9 AM election night. Daily. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2017 #4

Trump definitely hasn't been good BainsBane Aug 2017 #5

There's only one thing I won't compromise on Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #6

This is a retort BainsBane Aug 2017 #7

I will not compromise on pointing out strawmen Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #8

It's not a strawman BainsBane Aug 2017 #9

Great post. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #10

Thanks BainsBane Aug 2017 #11

Well written! JustAnotherGen Aug 2017 #13

Women's rights aren't negotiable njhoneybadger Aug 2017 #54

This. Well said Bainsbane The Polack MSgt Aug 2017 #58

Brave stand. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #25

K&R betsuni Aug 2017 #12

K&R sheshe2 Aug 2017 #14

Good question mcar Aug 2017 #15

On someone else BainsBane Aug 2017 #17

Yep mcar Aug 2017 #18

The truth condensed into one sentence. brer cat Aug 2017 #40

Actually, I already support corporate tax reform. dawg Aug 2017 #16

I stand with BainsBane Gothmog Aug 2017 #19

We either have a platform or we don't ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #20

+10000 nt brer cat Aug 2017 #41

Shoe On THe Other Foot Time Me. Aug 2017 #21

This feels like a push poll. oberliner Aug 2017 #22

Depends what you mean by "support concessions", but I would say yes. DanTex Aug 2017 #23

Would supporting candidates (D) with deep Wall Street or Corporate ties be a similar compromise? JoeStuckInOH Aug 2017 #24

If we can not hold people accountable DK504 Aug 2017 #26

My point is this BainsBane Aug 2017 #30

WHY are all these "How would you compromise Democratic principles to win?" threads appearing? WTH??? WinkyDink Aug 2017 #27

This is a response to the other one BainsBane Aug 2017 #29

That ship has sailed. surrealAmerican Aug 2017 #28

I like this poll :) JHan Aug 2017 #31

I think this is less about winning elections BainsBane Aug 2017 #32

And... JHan Aug 2017 #34

Thank you, bains NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #33

K&R. TexasTowelie Aug 2017 #35

I think the party platform should not be changed in favor of banks, but I also geek tragedy Aug 2017 #36

and turning the clock back on abortion rights and civil rights? BainsBane Aug 2017 #38

Steny Hoyer is a woman of color? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #39

women ( and men) on this board keep asking for the statistical evidence.. JHan Aug 2017 #42

What was Lujan supposed to say? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #43

So there was some imperative here that he say something? JHan Aug 2017 #44

He was asked in an interview. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #45

I typed in my post what he could have said, he's the political expert.. JHan Aug 2017 #46

And then the follow-up question would be "so there geek tragedy Aug 2017 #48

Yeah I know, ....... JHan Aug 2017 #49

The party needs to broaden its appeal. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #50

I already addressed those points,, JHan Aug 2017 #52

There are at least as many anti-choice Democrats geek tragedy Aug 2017 #55

Uhm.. JHan Aug 2017 #56

Lujan's job isn't to police the policy views of candidates. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #62

It makes perfect sense to have a party official tout a position .. JHan Aug 2017 #63

He's not touting, he's just saying the DCCC isn't going to withhold funds geek tragedy Aug 2017 #64

I grant you it is not "touting" however it is a definitive statement... JHan Aug 2017 #65

People donate to the DCCC to elect as many Democrats as possible to Congress. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #66

don't be absurd. People vote & donate to Democrats because their views align with Democrats. JHan Aug 2017 #67

No I'm not. People who donate to the DCCC understand that Democrats are heterodox geek tragedy Aug 2017 #69

They associate the Democratic party with a pro-choice position... because it's on.. JHan Aug 2017 #70

Sure, and people also realize that, functionally, geek tragedy Aug 2017 #71

I can't help but notice BainsBane Aug 2017 #60

Or maybe it's because the idea that party organs geek tragedy Aug 2017 #61

Thank you wryter2000 Aug 2017 #51

what's incredible to me is that the constant complaint in some quarters is .. JHan Aug 2017 #53

Thank you. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #37

Nope. (n/t) Iggo Aug 2017 #47

I am a little confused Cary Aug 2017 #57

Kick and rec - nt The Polack MSgt Aug 2017 #59

Jonathan Banks? Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #68