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JHan

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56. Uhm..

Sun Aug 6, 2017, 11:19 AM

Aug 2017

there's a significant proportion of black democrats ( for example ) who don't vote Dem because they feel the DCCC* hasn't funded pro-life candidates enough?

This is a major issue for the Dem base?

I know we live in the post modern age where facts are less important than conjured narratives, but your argument is that pro-choice positions have so significantly splintered the Democratic Base that an announcement was necessary from Lujan instead of him defending the national party platform?

Democrats who hold views on the pro-life vis a vis pro-choice spectrum have long made peace with the party's pro-choice stance as far as I know.

I don't know where you're getting this from.

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This is a response to the other one BainsBane Aug 2017 #29

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I think this is less about winning elections BainsBane Aug 2017 #32

And... JHan Aug 2017 #34

Thank you, bains NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #33

K&R. TexasTowelie Aug 2017 #35

I think the party platform should not be changed in favor of banks, but I also geek tragedy Aug 2017 #36

and turning the clock back on abortion rights and civil rights? BainsBane Aug 2017 #38

Steny Hoyer is a woman of color? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #39

women ( and men) on this board keep asking for the statistical evidence.. JHan Aug 2017 #42

What was Lujan supposed to say? geek tragedy Aug 2017 #43

So there was some imperative here that he say something? JHan Aug 2017 #44

He was asked in an interview. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #45

I typed in my post what he could have said, he's the political expert.. JHan Aug 2017 #46

And then the follow-up question would be "so there geek tragedy Aug 2017 #48

Yeah I know, ....... JHan Aug 2017 #49

The party needs to broaden its appeal. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #50

I already addressed those points,, JHan Aug 2017 #52

There are at least as many anti-choice Democrats geek tragedy Aug 2017 #55

Uhm.. JHan Aug 2017 #56

Lujan's job isn't to police the policy views of candidates. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #62

It makes perfect sense to have a party official tout a position .. JHan Aug 2017 #63

He's not touting, he's just saying the DCCC isn't going to withhold funds geek tragedy Aug 2017 #64

I grant you it is not "touting" however it is a definitive statement... JHan Aug 2017 #65

People donate to the DCCC to elect as many Democrats as possible to Congress. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #66

don't be absurd. People vote & donate to Democrats because their views align with Democrats. JHan Aug 2017 #67

No I'm not. People who donate to the DCCC understand that Democrats are heterodox geek tragedy Aug 2017 #69

They associate the Democratic party with a pro-choice position... because it's on.. JHan Aug 2017 #70

Sure, and people also realize that, functionally, geek tragedy Aug 2017 #71

I can't help but notice BainsBane Aug 2017 #60

Or maybe it's because the idea that party organs geek tragedy Aug 2017 #61

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