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emulatorloo

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82. Perhaps Aran's article was hidden because she said Fey/Liberals are the same as Trump
Sat Aug 19, 2017, 11:16 AM
Aug 2017

That's a dumb thing to say.

A reply from your Aran thread, with the relevant paragraph from her article:

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11. So Tina is 'both-sidesing" like tRump???!!!

This is the most far fetched piece of flawed reasoning I've come across.

I’m sure Fey’s heart’s in the right place, but it just goes to prove once again that even liberals can fall into the trap of assigning the violence that white supremacists cause to the people trying to stand against it—the flip side of the very same rhetoric Donald Trump was spouting earlier this week.

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BTW nobody told you to shut up.

Sentiment greeny2323 Aug 2017 #1
I guess I don't see how analyzing a comedy bit is an "overreaction." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #2
I loved that bit and as usual...some attack those on our side instead of attacking the GOP Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #3
Why is critique seen as an attack? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #8
The harm was that people can't tell if it was a comedy bit, or an extension of her beliefs. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #11
I understood exactly where she was coming from...I don't want balanced. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #92
+1. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #80
Let us all remember who the enemy is HAB911 Aug 2017 #4
+1. I mean, JFC, it's like you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't try to speak up. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #36
Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference ..... lunasun Aug 2017 #46
Yep. But how many Dems differ from Reps: If Dems speak up, others in the party will critique them. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #51
This isn't about damning. It's about listening to how people hear you, and then taking stock WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #53
It's about correcting people trying to help instead of building on someone else's statements. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #58
I'm curious how this feedback for Tina Fey could be given in a more "positive" way. What would that WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #60
Think on it a bit. I'm sure it will come to you. TheBlackAdder Aug 2017 #62
As someone who thought Young's feedback was fine, I'm not going to trouble myself. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #73
Don't expect a prize. Expect to be looked at with question. moda253 Aug 2017 #153
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing lunasun Aug 2017 #45
Quoted in the article: tblue37 Aug 2017 #5
Antifa also appears to not like comedy Not Ruth Aug 2017 #6
No, I'm not a member of Antifa, but I too found no humor in Fey's call for inaction. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #10
I'm a little confused why people think critiques of Fey's bit are "hating" or somehow give aid and WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #7
Don't let anyone tell you to shut up. tecelote Aug 2017 #12
Too late, someone already did! WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #19
Perhaps Aran's article was hidden because she said Fey/Liberals are the same as Trump emulatorloo Aug 2017 #82
Thank you so much for the explanation. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #87
Well said. nt SunSeeker Aug 2017 #13
Thank you. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #18
At first I did think that. After some reflection AllyCat Aug 2017 #14
Thank you for this. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #17
You just dont get it, and after all these years, I think you would have by now. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #151
Do you really think Tina Fey was telling people Sgent Aug 2017 #159
Did I miss something where Tina Fey defended white supremacists? Music Man Aug 2017 #9
Not sure why these critiques are characterized as a "firing squad" or "attacks," but she is WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #15
Bull pwb Aug 2017 #24
"Ignore the assholes" is what people with privilege can afford to do. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #26
So try and do better next time. pwb Aug 2017 #28
Which post, my OP or my responses? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #30
White people of no privilege defeated the nazis for all of us. pwb Aug 2017 #37
Maybe if the army had been better integrated at the time, we wouldn't be talking about Nazis now. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #41
Poor you. pwb Aug 2017 #54
If tell my friend that what they're doing hurts, and they keep doing it, are they really my friend? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #57
You are so noble... tonedevil Aug 2017 #88
White people fought wars for POC rights? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #152
+1 BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #158
Tina Fey's intent is important. Music Man Aug 2017 #31
Does intent matter if the content is flippant? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #47
I understand your points, and this is all well-taken. Music Man Aug 2017 #95
Excellent summation! (eom) CanSocDem Aug 2017 #140
I'm all for listening to others and how they perceive something, Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #124
Because they are attacks, and rather ridiculous ones at that obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #33
How is it satire if it's her regular persona and simply upholds the status quo? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #52
You are 100% wrong -- it was satire obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #55
Please walk me through, step by step, what Tina Fey was making fun of and how it WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #56
Give up. CanSocDem Aug 2017 #141
No one is saying Fey defended white supremacists, they just disagree with her "stay home" request. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #16
+1000. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #20
I think her stay home request was absolutely sarcasm. TNNurse Aug 2017 #22
I could take the "satire/sarcasm" explanation if I had also seen Tina Fey do anything ever other WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #27
Sally Hemings was her name. Demit Aug 2017 #59
Ugh! Thank you! WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #61
The Sally Hemmings "joke" was a slam against Thomas Jefferson... SMC22307 Aug 2017 #137
I don't get how it was a joke. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #156
We get it, you don't *do* satire. (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2017 #162
"She is a performer, not an elected official." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #29
The rest sounded lime sarcasm, the "stay home" line didn't. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #99
Yes, of course she was -- it was sarcasm, it was satire obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #35
I'm not attacking an ally, I'm just disagreeing with a line in a skit. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #98
You probably didn't notice how she introduced the stay at home thing Demit Aug 2017 #39
Oh I noticed it. Please don't assume those of us who didn't like the "stay home" line are stupid. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #97
Oh fer cryin' out loud. People need to get a sense of humor. It was a comedy sketch. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #117
A good sense of humor also recognizes when something is not funny. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #138
It was funny! Get a sense of humor. Ridiculous nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #144
Ridiculous is being mad that people don't find a bad joke funny. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #148
It was very funny. Kentonio Aug 2017 #145
Just because you found it funny doesn't mean it was a good joke. nt SunSeeker Aug 2017 #147
There's no such thing as a good or bad joke. Kentonio Aug 2017 #166
I liked the skit. I also recognize it was, for the most part for and/ or about white people. ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #21
Funny how we interpret things differently. I took the cake bit as a hit on 45 eating cake while seaglass Aug 2017 #44
Yes! Some of the criticism uses the Antoinette thing ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #63
I doubt many people would decide to stop based on her skit IronLionZion Aug 2017 #23
+1 ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #25
There have been dumber articles Loki Liesmith Aug 2017 #32
Grow up. n/t NNadir Aug 2017 #34
There is this thing called "satire," and a satire show called "SNL" obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #38
ive said it before only white people can stop this in our country. they will never listen to us or lunasun Aug 2017 #40
Preach. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #65
+ 100000 loyalsister Aug 2017 #105
You are right about Deandre Harris AllyCat Aug 2017 #142
Couldn't disagree more. tavernier Aug 2017 #42
FWIW she did stab white sheets (of cake) with a fork repeatedly NotASurfer Aug 2017 #43
So edgy! Much activist! WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #64
I would have preferred it if she would have eaten a picture of the pope Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #136
Legalize Lonnie Anderson's Hair! H2O Man Aug 2017 #48
This guy totally missed the point of Tina Fey's bit oberliner Aug 2017 #49
Walk me through the point because I missed it too. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #67
Mocking people who think you can just ignore white supremacism oberliner Aug 2017 #69
Then why the rush to purchase sheet cakes, seen here and elsewhere? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #70
I think a lot of people missed the point oberliner Aug 2017 #75
Exactly. Even some here criticising Fey seem to miss the point to. OnDoutside Aug 2017 #84
Can we agree that if so many missed the point, it wasn't good satire? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #86
That's a reasonable point oberliner Aug 2017 #89
I don't think it went over people's heads, I just think it wasn't very good. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #90
Interesting take. BumRushDaShow Aug 2017 #50
My take on the cake. forgotmylogin Aug 2017 #154
Yes exactly. BumRushDaShow Aug 2017 #155
I love Tina Fey. forgotmylogin Aug 2017 #161
Agree. BumRushDaShow Aug 2017 #164
Rather than replying to the OP, I would like to reply to all the white posters who responded. beastie boy Aug 2017 #66
Oh, please BallardWA Aug 2017 #68
Um, find someone who understands sarcams and comedy and ask them about it. I didn't find this bit mulsh Aug 2017 #71
fuck trump... stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #72
Agree 100% ciaobaby Aug 2017 #74
She knows. Why do you think she stuffed her face with cake? SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2017 #94
DURec leftstreet Aug 2017 #76
Wow. That's a profoundly silly sentiment. n/t MrModerate Aug 2017 #77
"Because there are people well just never reach." LudwigPastorius Aug 2017 #78
Where can white women go that black women cannot? Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #79
Move to a red county where you get vetted. You'll figure it out. Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #83
Born & raised in a red parish. Live there now. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #107
To respond to the question, what organizations would be resistant to minorities or their views? Baitball Blogger Aug 2017 #109
The area is at least half black. The area goes by money. Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #114
this is called forcing an agenda azureblue Aug 2017 #81
What is the agenda that either I or Mr. Young is "forcing"? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #91
WTF indeed. I can't believe the ugliness hurled at you for disagreeing with a comedian. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #100
"Ugliness" hurled at OP? Maybe dial back on the hyperbole emulatorloo Aug 2017 #102
It's not hyperbole. Telling someone to "grow up" or that they're too humorle to get a joke is ugly. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #103
That's your idea of an "ugly personal attack"? Ok, thanks for the examples. Appreciate it n/t emulatorloo Aug 2017 #108
Meh, it doesn't bother me -- hit dogs holler when it comes to privilege, though, I've found. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #110
They sure do. nt SunSeeker Aug 2017 #125
riffs off of the sheetcaking bit to make some great points eShirl Aug 2017 #85
WhiskeyGrinder SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2017 #93
Good article! Thanks for the link. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2017 #96
It's always important to get... tonedevil Aug 2017 #150
To say that Tina Fey, who, people keep telling me, has made a name for herself portraying awkward WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #111
Looks like a LOT of people did not think Fey's "stay home" line was fumny. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #101
Lots of folks not getting satire -- not the first woman on this board to be atatcked obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #106
Fey is not being attacked. Her "stay home" line is being criticized. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #126
Suggesting that a white woman who DIDN'T vote for Trump is responsible for trying to Squinch Aug 2017 #104
S. A. T. I. R. E. VOX Aug 2017 #112
It was S.H.I.T.T.Y. S.A.T.I.R.E. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #115
Yes. It was. nt TooStrong Aug 2017 #123
That's your opinion... whathehell Aug 2017 #129
I mean, I guess I could see the satire angle if Tina Fey has a record of regularly protesting and WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #113
Why do so many people need Tina Fey's sheetcaking bit to not be problematic? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #116
And y'all, we haven't even gotten to the rape joke at the end. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #118
It's okay to keep liking Tina Fey, people! I'm not even mad! WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #119
Intersectionality rears its ugly head once again. romanic Aug 2017 #120
So...you're not a fan? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2017 #121
Someone on FB pointed out . . . Richard D Aug 2017 #122
Tina Fey is on the naughty list! Warren DeMontague Aug 2017 #127
she also said Trump was Gorgeous JI7 Aug 2017 #128
I laughed out loud at her sarcasm when saying that. (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2017 #135
if Tina wanted to still be silly but say something DonCoquixote Aug 2017 #130
She said something. The cake was decorated with the American Flag, and that flag was destroyed. still_one Aug 2017 #132
so that is the big statement? DonCoquixote Aug 2017 #160
That is exactly what Michael Che did, and made a point of it at the climax of the routine still_one Aug 2017 #163
The sheet cake was a metaphor for how hopeless many Americans feel now, as hate groups are still_one Aug 2017 #131
I thought the heart of the joke was when Fey said there were not only Nazis and ... betsuni Aug 2017 #133
I didn't view the routine as a joke, and each bite of that cake was representative of the still_one Aug 2017 #143
Jesus Christ, "sheet-caking" is about STRESS/COMFORT eating. SMC22307 Aug 2017 #134
Sometimes UT_democrat Aug 2017 #139
That bit left me cold. I didn't find it funny at all. Coventina Aug 2017 #146
Disagree with the premise. Mc Mike Aug 2017 #149
Oy BannonsLiver Aug 2017 #157
Is Tina Fey Sarah Palin? nkpolitics1212 Aug 2017 #165
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