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Communists will, since they've been seen, in reality, to be authoritarian. Socialism is not.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#4
Perhaps you should amend the statement "The Left will never be authoritarian." in your OP.
Marengo
Aug 2017
#5
Nope. That's the hard line clung to by old cold warrior leaders here. It's not. I've been there.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#14
Does the political opposition have the same level of access to the media, and the same amount...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#18
Cuba is a one party state, a socialist state with province representation from The People.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#20
Does the Cuban government allow criticism of itself in the media? Criticism from non-communist
Marengo
Aug 2017
#22
Socialism is The People's state, so there is no "us vs. them" political mentality.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#85
There is intense discussion. No memberships. No "us vs. them" politics. Just solidarity politics.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#103
The laugh shows you as not only disrespectful but not understanding a thing about antifa history.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#46
Oh, no doubt a tourist is different! But a Spanish speaking tourist like me asks questions and gets
ancianita
Aug 2017
#77
Just more proof that communism has shown itself as authoritarian. You're right.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#83
Me, too. I mentioned Marco Rubio to Cubans. They laughed, said anyone who visits Cuba knows more
ancianita
Aug 2017
#95
You're right. I should. There were eight of us, four of whom are fluent in Spanish; one English-only
ancianita
Aug 2017
#98
Their problem is that 95% of the country has no Internet. It's in blackout. Partly because they
ancianita
Aug 2017
#101
I've never seen one. I do have a two excellent links you can start with, though.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#100
Yeah, tell it to the 100 million killed by Communist political violence around the world
Expecting Rain
Aug 2017
#8
I'm not presenting the authoritarian left. I'm talking about anti-fascism, socialism and solidarity.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#19
There are anti-fascist elements that are as authoritarian as the fascists, such as Maoists etc.
Marengo
Aug 2017
#28
Of course. When we demand commitment to solidarity, we can literally 'see' both sides' provocateurs.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#30
Are the authoritarian and anti-democratic elements within the antifa movement as a whole being...
Marengo
Aug 2017
#33
From what my friends say, yes. The church and other orgs are clear headed about solidarity.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#35
That's it? Welp, not one person on this thread, or in DU, has expressed anything to the contrary.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#91
IMO Liberals don't support violent political movements that are clear enemies of liberalism.
Expecting Rain
Aug 2017
#92
Agreed, though I'm still not sure we know the G7 ideologies they protest better than they do.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#11
Interesting references. I distinguish decentralized socialism from centralized fascism. Antifa
ancianita
Aug 2017
#21
This past English teacher and student of linguistics agrees.How words get changed is the politics of
ancianita
Aug 2017
#25
The so-called 'antifa' is the same old 'anarchists' who have been showing up for years!
yallerdawg
Aug 2017
#26
Not in Charlottesville. Not where my friends see it. One travel friend walked arm-in-arm with Cornel
ancianita
Aug 2017
#29
True. That, they do. Media bias is simple: give the appearance of thought for profit.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#36
Freedom of assembly means that we ALL have to keep them out of protests. Let's be clear:
ancianita
Aug 2017
#38
I'm not the only Democrat who respects him. There are plenty of black Democrats who do, too.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#43
Cornel West called President Obama the "first niggerized black president."
Expecting Rain
Aug 2017
#45
That's it? West said some words you don't like? Throw his entire history as a black Democrat
ancianita
Aug 2017
#47
No, Cornel West was addressing President Obama directly when he called him "niggerized."
Expecting Rain
Aug 2017
#48
Context is still everything--of Cornel West's life and work, and of the black tradition of critique.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#68
Ad hominem attacks on me are not welcome and are a violation of board rules.
Expecting Rain
Aug 2017
#69
You missed my point. Obama knows that West was describing context, not faulting Obama.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#71
He isn't the last word on what works and what doesn't. This will sort itself out, with attention
ancianita
Aug 2017
#37
Nope! Can't stand with extremists from the Left or the Right. If that's casting shade, so be it.
Petrushka
Aug 2017
#41
When i was growing up the word "abolitionist" was a bad word and they were dangerous people.
haveahart
Aug 2017
#53
History proves how large groups of people can get the language of solidarity wrong.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#66
Right. Anyone avoids groups that try to defend against toxic racist fascism. The scene is scary, but
ancianita
Aug 2017
#57
That's as far from my intent as any antifa support can be. But please explain more what ideas are
ancianita
Aug 2017
#63
Are you refusing to elaborate on your claim? Your questions seem to imply that you feel no
ancianita
Aug 2017
#65
The problem as I see it is lumping all who oppose Fascism into one group-"Antifa".
jalan48
Aug 2017
#67
Well, the word sounds weird, yes; likely, the word got shortened for efficiency's sake.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#70
OK. I came up with a name to replace "Antifa." I answered Mineral Man's suggestion: U.S. DEFENDER
ancianita
Aug 2017
#74
Thank you! I'll be getting it today. It's great that we share readings in times of signal-to-noise
ancianita
Aug 2017
#61
Hey, there's a helluva lot going on. No worries. I'm glad you're reading here. Thank you!
ancianita
Aug 2017
#80
So true. I used to subscribe to them both. Still love Harper's. I don't agree about EU antifascism.
ancianita
Aug 2017
#81
Yes, important points. Also, we need to focus on a model that can best secure nationwide solidarity
ancianita
Aug 2017
#105
Yes! And thanks for pointing to Putin's Russia as a successful form of Fascism...
AntiFascist
Aug 2017
#106