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Raster

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16. I disagree somewhat....
Wed Sep 13, 2017, 01:11 PM
Sep 2017

...I believe the underlying, always present, years of manufactured Hillary hate set the tone and stage for all the other factors. There are literally industries and careers built on the bedrock of manufactured Hillary hate. The Hillary hate allowed all the other factors to foment and be congealed into a toxic electoral soup.

That said, I believe the Russian interventions in its various fashions and forms --some of which we don't even know of today-- would be the first and most important factor. And even though most would discount and deny, there is always the possibility that in certain precincts and jurisdictions, the actual vote tallies may have been tampered with. We just don't know. And unfortunately, it appears that the Republicans in Congress have no desire to ascertain just how damaging the Russian interference may have been.

The second factor, I believe, was Comey's undue interference in the election, which may have moved the needle just enough for certain undecideds to change the course of the election. Comey's comment that he is "mildly nauseous" to think he may have affected the election is understated indeed. Comey should still be hunched over a toilet puking his guts out.

And I STRONGLY AGREE that Hillary Clinton should be talking about this and most definitely deserves to be heard, and EVERYONE should be listening. This will happen again. I believe with all of my heart that the actual, real and bonafide first female President of the United States was out-and-out robbed. I believe that many in the Republican party are complicit and know they had their nefarious part to play.

And finally, Hillary Clinton should be allowed to work through and come to terms with probably what was the greatest disappointment of her life. I hope Hillary Clinton rises from the ashes and becomes a dynamic, outspoken leader in the resistance.

Agree- the polls show it as a big dent. bettyellen Sep 2017 #1
Considering how close the election actually was the "I will say no" answer doesn't seem to be... PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #2
Absolutely agree karynnj Sep 2017 #23
Yeah the "deplorable" comment was clearly a strategic mistake (which is why she walked it back) PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #24
The difference is that Comey dramatically overhauled an election that was looking like a big win. StevieM Sep 2017 #29
Yep. nt SunSeeker Sep 2017 #3
Hillary just can't turn the page Jersey Devil Sep 2017 #4
You're certainly welcome to do what YOU need to do. oasis Sep 2017 #9
I just don't think that dwelling on why Hillary lost can be at all productive Jersey Devil Sep 2017 #10
I'm willing to wait and see what, if anything, is accomplished oasis Sep 2017 #14
So exploring the effects of sexism and racism are not productive? ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #18
Comey has exactly what to do with racism and sexism? Jersey Devil Sep 2017 #22
Seems I've been observing a different reality: JHan Sep 2017 #27
What about holding Comey accountable? yallerdawg Sep 2017 #11
Point taken Jersey Devil Sep 2017 #13
Nothing that happened in this election should be allowed to repeat! yallerdawg Sep 2017 #17
"What about holding Comey accountable?" - by doing what? (He's already been fired). n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #25
"Let's move on" is NOT holding Comey accountable. yallerdawg Sep 2017 #26
Well said. Comey is reprehensible. (eom) StevieM Sep 2017 #30
Many people believe that analysis of recent history is no real help LanternWaste Sep 2017 #21
The reasons for the loss are essential to moving forward. delisen Sep 2017 #33
Wrong. Justice Sep 2017 #36
Yes.. definitely a contributor....We can't ignore the media failure too... FarPoint Sep 2017 #5
I agree. It was like a punch in the gut when Comey's letter announcing the investigation came out. Hoyt Sep 2017 #6
It actually served no purpose either... FarPoint Sep 2017 #12
Speaking of terror attacks, I am convinced Kerry would have won in 2004 if a Bin Laden video Hoyt Sep 2017 #15
I would argue that it wasn't too close. Comey completely overhauled the race with his stunt. StevieM Sep 2017 #31
There's evidence. All repugnicant 'acquaintances' sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #34
Strange she doesn't mention decades of anti-Hillary media attacks leftstreet Sep 2017 #7
She ranked them in the correct order... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #8
I disagree somewhat.... Raster Sep 2017 #16
Yes, Comey's attack worked so well because the media had set up her emails Johonny Sep 2017 #28
She was a brittle public figure Cosmocat Sep 2017 #37
I don't agree that Comey moved the needle "just enough." I think he moved it a whole lot. StevieM Sep 2017 #41
Matt Lauer is asking her this question? tavernier Sep 2017 #19
K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #20
It's a ridiculous question because it sets up the implication that we are debating whether or not StevieM Sep 2017 #32
Thank you! eom sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #35
It's both Cosmocat Sep 2017 #38
I think she got a lot of air in September and October. More than enough to win the race StevieM Sep 2017 #39
I agree as well that Hillary had a big enough lead to easily win until Comey's letter andym Sep 2017 #40
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