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LuvLoogie

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5. Bernie saw no alternative to hitching on to the Democratic collective

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 12:21 PM

Sep 2017

when he ran for national office. That decades-long collective provided him access to an infrastructure built with the blood, sweat, and tears of countless Democrats.

He continues to bash that collective that has done the arduous work of building consensus on advancing policy which makes life better for Americans.

Independents aren't a cohesive political entity. They are, for the most part, non-committal, wishy-washy, what's in it for me types.

Bernie has a long history of disparaging Democrats, and, to this day, claims that he is not one of us. The Democratic Socialists have their own political collective. He should join it, or join ours. Until then, his criticisms lack any soul. He lacks commitment and has no interest in buiding consensus, but in usurping, rather, the work of the Democratic Party.

This is clear to me. The Democratic collective does matter. Bernie's relevance only exists because of Democrats who HAVE made the COMMITMENT. Bernie just wants to shack up for as long as he's gettin' some.

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I am a Democrat [View all] Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 OP

Thank you! TDale313 Sep 2017 #1

When they share? So there are circumstances where you will vote GOP or independent? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #6

Sure there are jl_theprofessor Sep 2017 #16

The open question is whether Person X is bringing about important and desirable social changes, or Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #2

Thank you. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #3

This touches on a section of Secretary Clinton's book I found particularly interesting. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2017 #4

Bernie saw no alternative to hitching on to the Democratic collective LuvLoogie Sep 2017 #5

That progress was built on the blook sweat and tears of the likes of Norman Thomas also. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #7

My response not completed, edited to add more after LuvLoogie Sep 2017 #9

Well said and spot on! Nt Ninga Sep 2017 #10

I wouldn't know where to start.. humm pangaia Sep 2017 #15

it's blisteringly truthful though... JHan Sep 2017 #21

Bernie continues to bash AND RandomAccess Sep 2017 #19

THANK YOU, Tom, elleng Sep 2017 #8

THANK YOU. crim son Sep 2017 #11

Ive stepped away from the shitshow on DU over this. Focusing my attn locally right now riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #12

Bravo! LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #13

K&R. n/t ms liberty Sep 2017 #14

Thank you democrank Sep 2017 #17

The Democratic Party is the only way to enact progressive change ...and criticizing them which Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #18

That simply is not true Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #25

+ 1000 & thank you RandomAccess Sep 2017 #20

Unfortunately when the criticism seems mostly negative & delisen Sep 2017 #30

Well RandomAccess Sep 2017 #31

As I said, this may vary around the country regarding delisen Sep 2017 #32

"If one side believes that there is no difference between the Democratic Party and the Republican... Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #33

I also consider it a force for good RandomAccess Sep 2017 #36

A B S O L U T E L Y! Lyricalinklines Sep 2017 #22

Great post! Martin Eden Sep 2017 #23

We see Bernie very differently. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #24

That is probably true, but the point I am trying to make is not tied soley to that Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #26

It'd more true if he was not telling us plus reminding us. Believe me, I have no interest in him. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #27

I appreciate your thought-out post. moriah Sep 2017 #28

Again I want to thank you. MuseRider Sep 2017 #29

Thank you. Some most excellent thinking out loud. Certainly no apology called for. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2017 #38

That was an excellent thread too. MuseRider Sep 2017 #39

Bravo!! Duppers Sep 2017 #34

It's a big tent. Orsino Sep 2017 #35

thank you. Joe941 Sep 2017 #37