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louis c

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6. The key word in the 1st amendmet is "Abridge'

Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:22 PM

Sep 2017

bad service is not protected under the first amendment, political speech is. If the waitress told Trump that she didn't vote for him and didn't agree with his policies and was an "employee at will", the owner could fire her. But Trump could not ask her to be fired, as that would be the government "abridging" her freedom of speech.

Every company or organization has to deal with the government on some level. In the case of ESPN, it's the FCC, which Trump is technically in charge of.

The NFL has many government oversight agencies, including OSHA (concussions may come under this agency).

Trump is urging owners to fire individuals for expressing a political point of view. That would cause a "chilling" affect on the employees and the owners and violate the first amendment.

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Has Trump Violated the Constitution on his Statement to Fire NFL Players? [View all] louis c Sep 2017 OP

What was the statement in question? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #1

Does trump own the team or co-own it? Doreen Sep 2017 #2

The key word in the 1st amendmet is "Abridge' louis c Sep 2017 #6

Only if a law was passed leading to them being fired liberal N proud Sep 2017 #3

He ran afoul of the law meow2u3 Sep 2017 #4

November is going to get good Not Ruth Sep 2017 #5

I hope Vice News follows these players around in November. n/t bathroommonkey76 Sep 2017 #18

There is applicable law that is violated. L. Coyote Sep 2017 #7

Free speech rights only apply to nazis airing their learned viewpoints in places like Berkeley. Mc Mike Sep 2017 #8

But the NFL's real problem with Ass-wipe is the ratings war: FreeStateDemocrat Sep 2017 #9

That is a huge stretch mythology Sep 2017 #10

"Chilling Effect" louis c Sep 2017 #11

"solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation" onenote Sep 2017 #12

And if I oppose the President, where is my affiliation? louis c Sep 2017 #13

You're simply ignoring what the law states. onenote Sep 2017 #14

So, what you are saying is that I am registered in no political party louis c Sep 2017 #15

You can be a member of a party and they can "lobby" for you to be fired onenote Sep 2017 #16

The answer is "yes" louis c Sep 2017 #17

and what "official act" would have been involved. onenote Sep 2017 #19

Please reread post 15 louis c Sep 2017 #20

You're simply wrong. An "official act" is a sine qua non of a violation onenote Sep 2017 #21