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In reply to the discussion: What if Gun Owners Paid a Tax to Help Defray the High Costs of Gun Violence? [View all]Orrex
(63,172 posts)40. Again, guns serve as self-defense only because they're intended to kill
No one brandishes a gun in self-defense with the intent of having the gun embarrass or insult the assailant. The gun is a killing machine, and it is recognized as a killing machine; otherwise it has no deterrent value of self-defense. This is a fact. That's how the gun was designed; that's how it's built; that's how it is sold, and that's why it is purchased.
We can talk about the fun of target shooting and respecting the intricacy of the firing mechanism and all of that, but it's still a killing machine.
Of the unknown millions of guns in the USA, only a tiny fraction of them are used for killing innocents. Fact.
That's true, but every single one of those guns is still designed, built, sold, and bought because it is a killing machine. That is also fact.
Further, if you're going to rely on the number of guns in the USA versus the number of guns used to kill innocents, then you need to abandon your claims about cars being deliberately used to kill, because the ratio doesn't favor your comparison.
When there is a Las Vegas style shooting, you rush to punish millions of uninvolved.
And in response to every single weekly mass shooting, gun advocates' rush to protect their guns.Edit history
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What if Gun Owners Paid a Tax to Help Defray the High Costs of Gun Violence? [View all]
dlk
Oct 2017
OP
Please, cars are not a weapon. Not anymore of a weapon than a chainsaw, baseball bat, or a rock.
MindPilot
Oct 2017
#4
Using your criteria, my concealed carry gun isn't a weapon unless I kill someone.
Hangingon
Oct 2017
#23
And in response to every mass shooting, thinking people attempt to rehash the root cause.
Hangingon
Oct 2017
#43
I don't think we're disputing that guns are the instrument of murder more than cars by a huge margin
metalbot
Oct 2017
#71
Well, if your dispute is with the title of the article, that's on the article's author
Orrex
Oct 2017
#73
shoul be insurance on individual guns as well as amunition and the money goes into a
beachbum bob
Oct 2017
#2
There is a 10% excise tax that goes to the states for wildlife and wildlife habitat conservation
inwiththenew
Oct 2017
#5
I like idea of tax, more importantly we need to get rid of law that protects gun profiteers.
Hoyt
Oct 2017
#7
ammo should have a federal tax of $1 a round to pay for NON-profit healthcare system for Americans.
Sunlei
Oct 2017
#27
What is a "standard" box of ammo? How would the seller know the "standard" box has already...
Marengo
Oct 2017
#56
100 rounds tax free. because you deduct your tax paid on your yearly IRS report.
Sunlei
Oct 2017
#75
Posts like this are why you'll a tough time getting restrictions on bump stocks through...
Baconator
Oct 2017
#60
Your legal speculations are unpersuasive, and the NRA thanks you for your support
Orrex
Oct 2017
#68
This is one of the few instances when a conservative demographic wants everyone else to pay for thei
LanternWaste
Oct 2017
#48