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73. Everything seems to be a "national disgrace" anymore

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Sun Oct 8, 2017, 03:04 AM

Oct 2017

something to keep youself in a permanent state of agitation about ... I'll pass.

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Having cities named after Columbus, along with a holiday honoring him, is a national disgrace. [View all] jcmaine72 Oct 2017 OP

Columbus did all that? How long was he here? jmg257 Oct 2017 #1

So, those things are not his legacy? Can you please tell me what you think his legacy entails.... jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #5

He supposedly 'discovered' America. Though that jmg257 Oct 2017 #6

Really? He did? Was it lost? jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #7

Decades ago actually. Though I wasn't aware he enslave jmg257 Oct 2017 #8

Here are some irrefutable facts for you about Columbus that you have obviously missed: jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #9

Yes indeed - thanks.... very interesting! jmg257 Oct 2017 #10

You're welcome! jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #11

His son seems like a real dick too. jmg257 Oct 2017 #13

The genocide thing makes that article ridiculous Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #46

Smallpox, measles, a lot of stuff the indigenes had NO IMMUNITY TO. People from one sick village... Hekate Oct 2017 #60

But outside of a few rather unsuccessful attempts at using smallpox blankets mythology Oct 2017 #62

Exactly. Human history is ... human. All the good, all the bad, all the beauty, all the horror. Hekate Oct 2017 #69

It is probably impossible to spread smallpox via a blanket Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #75

If we allow our biases all relevant definitions, it seems 'discover' yet works, LanternWaste Oct 2017 #92

Unless you are native American, were it not for Columbus you would not be here question everything Oct 2017 #2

JFC, listen to yourself. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #14

It's staggers the mind the extent to which some will go to rationalize and even defend the jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #20

No, it staggersthe mind to belittle the aspirations and the hope of so many generations question everything Oct 2017 #25

Weak sauce. Making Columbus the poster boy of the "huddled masses" when in reality... jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #35

No, Columbus did not suggest the huddle masses and you know perfectly well question everything Oct 2017 #38

You seemed obsessed with my ancestry, as if that somehow refutes the facts about Columbus jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #49

So pathetic question everything Oct 2017 #71

Columbus was a slaver ExciteBike66 Oct 2017 #77

And what the hell do those people have to do with Columbus? moriah Oct 2017 #90

He did not. But next waves of immigrants did question everything Oct 2017 #23

I don't know where to begin.. pangaia Oct 2017 #54

My reaction as well, "beacon of...hope?" pangaia Oct 2017 #50

No offense, but BS. Adrahil Oct 2017 #53

Randy Marsh, is that you? flvegan Oct 2017 #3

No. Agschmid Oct 2017 #4

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #51

We will not change the name of our capitol city nt doc03 Oct 2017 #12

Of course not. We wouldn't want anyone to think we'd ever do anything as declasse as not honor the.. jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #15

Did you know Russia wants to divide us? sharedvalues Oct 2017 #30

Did you know the price of chopped chicken liver in Flatbush is $14.95 per pound? jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #37

Russia wants infighting in America sharedvalues Oct 2017 #41

I think you put your finger on it. Watch this one go down swinging... Hekate Oct 2017 #56

No it's not oberliner Oct 2017 #16

Was Amerigo Vespucci innocent of similar atorcities? No. And our COUNTRY is named after him. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #17

Should rename it Erikssonia whistler162 Oct 2017 #19

Yup the Vikings were paragons of good virtue too sharedvalues Oct 2017 #31

Turtle Island Hekate Oct 2017 #63

Not dwell on? Duppers Oct 2017 #88

Should we all just slit our wrists and be done with it? sarah FAILIN Oct 2017 #18

No, but you could consider a viable alternative to such a ridiculously asinine overreaction: jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #22

I don't care about this cause of the day. sarah FAILIN Oct 2017 #59

Here! Here! question everything Oct 2017 #27

That's what Russia wants with their info campaigns sharedvalues Oct 2017 #33

Exactly! Because acknowledging past atrocities and showing any degree of sensitivity towards the jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #39

Russian disinformation plays both sides sharedvalues Oct 2017 #43

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #66

Unlike others. edhopper Oct 2017 #21

Thank you! jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #24

It should just be made Italian American Day Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #42

Seems like just about everythng is 'a national disgrace' for one reason or other these days. WillowTree Oct 2017 #26

Divide divide divisiveness sharedvalues Oct 2017 #28

Divisive to whom? jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #61

So self righteous Hekate Oct 2017 #64

So vacuous. jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #67

Back to Russia: see the Anti-Putin protests? sharedvalues Oct 2017 #85

Russians want us to focus on other issues than Trump and GOP sharedvalues Oct 2017 #84

Since this is a political blog, let me make a political observation... brooklynite Oct 2017 #29

It IS the kind of issue you'd amplify sharedvalues Oct 2017 #44

"sheer brutality on a global scale" left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #32

Russia wants Americans divided sharedvalues Oct 2017 #34

lol Spider Jerusalem Oct 2017 #36

We can fix that today. Democrats will bring the country together sharedvalues Oct 2017 #45

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #47

That'll happen in about 50 years or so when white people are a minority Spider Jerusalem Oct 2017 #58

Columbus Day is the day dedicated to Italian Americans Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #40

I am so sick and tired of presentism. Nt tymorial Oct 2017 #48

Like the Pledge and the Anthem, Columbus Day came much much later than 1776... Hekate Oct 2017 #52

troll harder tenderfoot Oct 2017 #55

I have a lot of conflicting thoughts... stevenleser Oct 2017 #57

Thanks, stevenleser. As I said upthread, history is complicated... Hekate Oct 2017 #68

Yes and yes. sharedvalues Oct 2017 #86

Columbus' discovery Sgent Oct 2017 #76

I live in Columbus, Ohio phleshdef Oct 2017 #65

Hear hear! Duppers Oct 2017 #72

There can be any number of italians we coudl replace him with DonCoquixote Oct 2017 #70

Everything seems to be a "national disgrace" anymore Raine Oct 2017 #73

Kinda like the Civil War monuments, uh? Duppers Oct 2017 #89

Disagree only with the extent to which you carry this. Duppers Oct 2017 #74

We have a big city literally named after a dictator. AngryAmish Oct 2017 #78

many more importants things to be concerned with these days.... beachbum bob Oct 2017 #79

This issue is way down on my to do list GulfCoast66 Oct 2017 #80

Interesting point comrade Renew Deal Oct 2017 #81

He was an explorer who was a product of his times joeybee12 Oct 2017 #82

The Russians are everywhere... Vinnie From Indy Oct 2017 #83

Seems like the biggest defense to your OP is to call you a Russian and the best argument is to lunasun Oct 2017 #87

There is Columbus "the myth" and there is Columbus "the reality". guillaumeb Oct 2017 #91