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Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
259. Why those hysterical females...they overreacted...I am sure some manspainin
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 07:25 PM
Oct 2017

will right this ship (sarcasm). I can't imagine how some women thought a woman's conference should be about well women.

umm the conference WANTED him to speak and its their conference after all nt msongs Oct 2017 #1
That's your answer? It's a conference about women. The organizers don't own that. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #2
Who has the right... tonedevil Oct 2017 #5
When it is about a diversity group? The members of that diversity group. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #16
Did the organizers... tonedevil Oct 2017 #21
This isn't that complicated. It's all in the OP. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #23
Not really. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #251
No they didn't have to ask permission radical noodle Oct 2017 #105
The organizers of the Women's March weren't mostly WOC. Why do you say "apparently" this group is? pnwmom Oct 2017 #136
The tweet... tonedevil Oct 2017 #236
There were 4 organizers, including two white women, one Latina, and an African American. n/t pnwmom Oct 2017 #239
Thank you... tonedevil Oct 2017 #243
I haven't seen anything that explains who issued the invite or how. n/t pnwmom Oct 2017 #246
Have to agree with you there... they must've had good reasons for inviting Bernie to speak. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #33
They really didn't. Everything you see that they have come out with on this says the opposite. stevenleser Oct 2017 #37
I can understand there being some people who were not in favor of hearing from Bernie... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #42
Meanwhile, this decision has brought a lot more attention to their event. thesquanderer Oct 2017 #108
Or not. A lot of women seem to be asking for their $300 back. Seems they think their issues stevenleser Oct 2017 #109
Could you have lived with them inviting Nina Turner? Ken Burch Oct 2017 #242
Sure. Those would have been reasonable choices. stevenleser Oct 2017 #268
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There's nothing in that photo that "says the opposite". Ken Burch Oct 2017 #252
Well the people they charged $300 per ticket that they defrauded by Ninsianna Oct 2017 #91
does the 300 dollars include a Hotel , travel and whatever costs of getting there ? JI7 Oct 2017 #116
No, I was going for the day...you can buy day tickets. But I won't go now. To have Sen. Sanders Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #159
You might want to check out the comments of some of those other "honored" speakers Ninsianna Oct 2017 #273
Wow..not going. I am incensed at how this was done...they deliberately waited until you couldn't get Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #275
Nasty right? Ninsianna Oct 2017 #280
Since I was going anyway...I will keep my eyes peeled. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #281
Nope. Ninsianna Oct 2017 #272
It's NOT a conference about women, that would be simplistic and limited Not Ruth Oct 2017 #6
u ruined his mansplainin questionseverything Oct 2017 #11
Nope, Bernie will be the one mansplaining, and the conference organizers enabled it. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #17
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It actually is that simple. stevenleser Oct 2017 #18
That is a fine example... tonedevil Oct 2017 #25
They actually do share my opinion and knew the choice was a controversial one stevenleser Oct 2017 #35
I don't think you understand... tonedevil Oct 2017 #38
No, I don't think YOU understand. They knew these opinions existed among women when they made the stevenleser Oct 2017 #40
Apparently... tonedevil Oct 2017 #55
It was a very bad decision. And I have to wonder if it is about selling tickets...at $300.00 a pop Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #163
You say this as if there is a group that would get collective 100% support mythology Oct 2017 #177
This flailing really does not become any of you trying to support this decision. stevenleser Oct 2017 #226
I did it intentionally and no it wasn't "flailing" as you inaccurately put it. mythology Oct 2017 #270
Thank you, Not Ruth True Dough Oct 2017 #56
I had intended to go up for the day...but I let my hotel go because I want nothing to do with this. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #161
"that the rise of the woman IS the rise of the nation." How do you get that it "Is NOT a conference emulatorloo Oct 2017 #213
Yes it is. The percentage of female speakers addressing the conference highlights female leadership Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #238
Listen to the actual organizers Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #7
truly embarrassing to see them try to insulate themselves from criticism that way. bettyellen Oct 2017 #96
And embarrassing to see some DUers who have never been interested in any diversity issues stevenleser Oct 2017 #224
There are people who twist things for political "gain" and I think they lose in the end.... bettyellen Oct 2017 #267
Thanks elleng Oct 2017 #128
That's my answer, too. nt babylonsister Oct 2017 #19
And it is still a bad answer. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #20
When does this happen? I am now curious to babylonsister Oct 2017 #28
It's a good opportunity for him to lay out how women's' issues fit into his worldview emulatorloo Oct 2017 #209
Well you certainly don't own it either, stevenleser. appal_jack Oct 2017 #122
And I am sure you are going to tell us all how reciting that obvious factoid stevenleser Oct 2017 #125
And you do? Ken Burch Oct 2017 #241
Not "the conference." The majority of the handful of organizers of the conference. n/t pnwmom Oct 2017 #53
And the women who made the conference possible resoundingly shouted their disagreement Ninsianna Oct 2017 #89
No. Sorry. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #102
Thank you. Paka Oct 2017 #111
Sheshe2 wrote pretty much the same thing. It is under Latest Threads BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author GaryCnf Oct 2017 #9
Is he the headline speaker? If so, IMO, he probably needs to bow out. He's too much... brush Oct 2017 #84
What? KPN Oct 2017 #4
You mean people who actually get off their ass and organize a convention should have some say? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #10
I need a link to share, but yes! And babylonsister Oct 2017 #24
Here SixString Oct 2017 #26
They got to decide who they wanted delisen Oct 2017 #135
They can organize it but I don't have to go...and no more donations from me either. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #164
+1! KPN Oct 2017 #192
Yea, in between the GaryCnf Oct 2017 #12
Calling for silencing? Rather hyperbolic. KPN Oct 2017 #15
I assume by "over-reaction" GaryCnf Oct 2017 #27
Yes, your assumption is correct ... KPN Oct 2017 #183
NP GaryCnf Oct 2017 #184
Why those hysterical females...they overreacted...I am sure some manspainin Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #259
You need to go back GaryCnf Oct 2017 #261
I attack no one...but I feel they absolutely blew it. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #276
And here is Tamika Mallory in her own words acknowledging her choice was controversial stevenleser Oct 2017 #36
Changing the goalposts? GaryCnf Oct 2017 #46
No changing, exactly in line with my OP. Not even a good try. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #48
You have not... tonedevil Oct 2017 #57
My OP makes clear why its a horrible idea. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #60
I just don't agree. /nt tonedevil Oct 2017 #61
Are you a member of a diversity group? nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #64
As a 61 year old White Man... tonedevil Oct 2017 #74
That's why you don't understand. Ask a member of a diversity group about the situations stevenleser Oct 2017 #78
I understand... tonedevil Oct 2017 #90
Too bad this confernece was organized by straight white men Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #176
I'm AA and definitely not a Bernie fan. But I understand why Tamika chose Bernie as one of the underthematrix Oct 2017 #262
No it doesn't. It states a bunch of ridiculous KPN Oct 2017 #188
Its a straightforward and obvious set of facts that you can't refute. stevenleser Oct 2017 #225
Say what you will. KPN Oct 2017 #229
It was an idiot idea and there are many reasons why. leftofcool Oct 2017 #65
And she supported it regardless because she thought it was a good thing to do. KPN Oct 2017 #185
Wait, wait , wait. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #112
that's crazy talk Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #180
If the conference organizers invited him, and if the conference organizers are women, guillaumeb Oct 2017 #8
Seems pretty obvious... Bernie may not have been my first choice InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #34
Agreed. eom guillaumeb Oct 2017 #198
Yes, thanks, elleng Oct 2017 #130
Purity at all costs? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #199
A 'big' reason, imo. elleng Oct 2017 #204
He/she who thinks the Democratic party treestar Oct 2017 #190
Organizers are POC who admire him. Is their perspective shit? Arazi Oct 2017 #13
Not even a nice try. Laughable actually. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #14
Still no good responses, because there aren't any. He's not a women's advocate at all. stevenleser Oct 2017 #22
I was hoping for an "I don't see gender" one. betsuni Oct 2017 #29
I was just going to say, the night is young. stevenleser Oct 2017 #86
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Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #31
K&R stonecutter357 Oct 2017 #32
Actually the women who selected him GaryCnf Oct 2017 #39
Oh I listened. Here they are stevenleser Oct 2017 #49
And it's wide right GaryCnf Oct 2017 #51
In other words, you really don't care what the thoughts are of the women who organized the stevenleser Oct 2017 #52
Have some dignity sir GaryCnf Oct 2017 #71
Read your response out loud in front of a mirror. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #83
Exactly, right again. This is just a dishonest attempt to R B Garr Oct 2017 #195
Which is disingenuous treestar Oct 2017 #194
Bernie has disparaged people he claims practice identity politics, pnwmom Oct 2017 #62
Well at least you're honest. GaryCnf Oct 2017 #76
Bernie has a one-size-fits-all-99% solution for political equality, pnwmom Oct 2017 #77
Again, my compliments GaryCnf Oct 2017 #82
Dunno where you get "hatred" from a recitation of facts and direct quotes emulatorloo Oct 2017 #216
I agree that having a man open the conference was a clunky decision. Demit Oct 2017 #41
Thank you Steven mcar Oct 2017 #43
You're just pissed because it's Bernie phleshdef Oct 2017 #44
As usual. elleng Oct 2017 #129
Yes, I am pisssed that Sen. Sanders was chosen given his comments on identity politics and Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #167
so you are basically saying Bernie has not done much on issues important to women Takket Oct 2017 #45
It's exactly as I said in the OP and I will elaborate stevenleser Oct 2017 #47
Just because it's controversial... tonedevil Oct 2017 #59
Question GaryCnf Oct 2017 #66
I'll answer, if... stevenleser Oct 2017 #75
a well thought out reply......... Takket Oct 2017 #68
Thanks For Fighting A Good Fight Me. Oct 2017 #69
Likely there are men who have done more treestar Oct 2017 #191
k&r Starry Messenger Oct 2017 #50
So far he's the only man to be invited who has accepted. That is odd. George II Oct 2017 #54
Not true oberliner Oct 2017 #58
From their own website, here are the 44 confirmed speakers: George II Oct 2017 #70
There is one other male speaker and he is not speaking on day 1. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #63
I stand corrected, there are 44 confirmed speakers on their website, 42 are women. George II Oct 2017 #72
This was absolutely a tone-deaf decision NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #67
I Would Rather Hear Bernie Speak At ANY EVENT SeattlePop Oct 2017 #73
I just drop this here. Carry on... Purveyor Oct 2017 #79
That argument is beyond stale at this point. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #80
As I said carry on. 2018 is going to be a challenge at this rate, indeed... nt Purveyor Oct 2017 #88
Do you believe a difference of opinion on an obscure website like DU will affect the 2018 election? emulatorloo Oct 2017 #201
That is correct and many, including myself sometimes think a forum such as this matters Purveyor Oct 2017 #230
It's pretty simple. Smitty63nnn Oct 2017 #81
Point 1 is Irrelevant and Point 2 has been previously debunked. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #85
No, it was about time for someone to bring up that tired old argument. pnwmom Oct 2017 #87
He is not hosting the event. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #119
"Doing it for nothing". It is illegal for a sitting congressperson to be paid to speak. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #215
I guess you told us! Philistein Oct 2017 #92
Put down your violin. The women organizing the conference knew their choice was controversial stevenleser Oct 2017 #93
So what... tonedevil Oct 2017 #95
That has nothing to do with what that person said to me. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #98
You keep saying that... tonedevil Oct 2017 #100
Nope, that was the first time I said that in this subthread. stevenleser Oct 2017 #103
I'm not sure how you... tonedevil Oct 2017 #113
I'm giving up on this guy. Philistein Oct 2017 #106
My violin? MY violin? Philistein Oct 2017 #99
Sure you did, the first sad tune you reached for was stevenleser Oct 2017 #101
Sigh. We have a buffoon in the White House who got there through treason. PatrickforO Oct 2017 #94
I can fight Trump and advocate for diversity issues at the same time. stevenleser Oct 2017 #97
It's late. Get some sleep. Pick up bashing again tomorrow with a fresh start. FailureToCommunicate Oct 2017 #104
I'm so pleased with your concern for my sleeping schedule but no and no. stevenleser Oct 2017 #107
I think Trump will win in 2020 Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #110
Never pass up a chance to bash Bernie hueymahl Oct 2017 #114
There is zero Bernie bashing in the OP but thanks for playing. stevenleser Oct 2017 #115
mmm hmmm Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #203
Lol, you have no idea what a joke that is. Sorry, no sale. stevenleser Oct 2017 #206
+1000, notice that there is zero concern about the R B Garr Oct 2017 #218
K&R betsuni Oct 2017 #117
Op is either Bernie Bashing or an expression that conference organizers need supervision. /nt philly_bob Oct 2017 #118
Don't worry about Bernie, he's an experienced establishment politician, he can take criticism. betsuni Oct 2017 #120
Right, Betsuni, I'm not at all worried about Bernie, philly_bob Oct 2017 #222
How disingenuous. You do sound mostly worried about Bernie. R B Garr Oct 2017 #279
IMHO - It is just more noise taking away from the disaster that is the Trump administration OhioBlue Oct 2017 #121
K&R! Thanks for making this a separate thread. R B Garr Oct 2017 #123
The Mansplaining Keynote TeamPooka Oct 2017 #124
Maxine Waters is the keynote. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #175
This seems to be part of the continued rationalization (or a sadistic doubling down) coolsandy Oct 2017 #126
Maxine Waters is the headlining speaker. elleng Oct 2017 #127
After what happened to Barbara Boxer, DWS and a certain prominent Democrat ucrdem Oct 2017 #131
Jesus man! Glamrock Oct 2017 #132
Ny name isnt Jesus, and this is a political discussion forum stevenleser Oct 2017 #208
Okay Glamrock Oct 2017 #220
Long past time to stop bashing Bernie left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #133
There is no Bernie bashing in the OP. Not even a nice try. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #207
Seriously...the endless repetition of the phrase "hasn't been a particular backer" Ken Burch Oct 2017 #247
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He has a history of disparaging pnwmom Oct 2017 #137
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Many women were offended by this statement of Bernie's, and others like it. pnwmom Oct 2017 #139
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When did she ever play the damsel in distress? pnwmom Oct 2017 #141
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Trump WAS deliberately hovering over her and invading her personal space. That was a form pnwmom Oct 2017 #143
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First you insulted Hillary and now it's Gore. I get the idea. nt pnwmom Oct 2017 #145
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Yup. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #160
Im almost sorry I missed the action stevenleser Oct 2017 #212
Tea Roll JI7 Oct 2017 #147
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trump supporters are shitbags JI7 Oct 2017 #150
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no, i don't have any shitbags in my family JI7 Oct 2017 #153
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shitbag trump supporters don't deserve respect JI7 Oct 2017 #155
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yeah, trump supporters are also fuckwads JI7 Oct 2017 #157
Played the vagina card? MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #173
I don't. I am a woman. And while I respect all opinions. I won't go see a guy open a woman's Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #165
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And yes some women and people of color had a problem with that. Not all by a long-shot, and I doubt JCanete Oct 2017 #171
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Oct 2017 #223
He ticks me off treestar Oct 2017 #193
That was almost 60 years ago...and his comments of late have been about emphasizing economic Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #168
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We are sooooo fucked! SMDH. n/t Whiskeytide Oct 2017 #158
Oh come on, among numerous speakers allies to these groups have no business speaking? They JCanete Oct 2017 #162
We don't need this sort of attention. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #166
that is depressingly vague. Who doesn't. What's the attention you are getting that you object to? JCanete Oct 2017 #172
I don't care for Sen. Sanders. I am a Democrat, and he has said some things I wish he hadn't about Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #179
So you are going to miss the conference... Whiskeytide Oct 2017 #181
I wanted to go to a Woman's conference...not a political rally and it seems to me that this is what Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #260
I refuse to attend this conference because it is not a woman's conference which I signed up for... Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #277
Using your logic it is not your place to complain. Dustlawyer Oct 2017 #174
+1111111111! KPN Oct 2017 #187
Nope, everyone can complain. Just not everyone should be a conference speaker. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #210
As a man you know more than the organizers of the event? Dustlawyer Oct 2017 #245
Your response is a perfect example. See my #253 below nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #254
Has this group reserved speaking slots exclusively for women in the past? Ken Burch Oct 2017 #249
First conference in 40 years. But there is precedent for inviting men stevenleser Oct 2017 #257
I hadn't realized this was a fortieth anniversary event. That conference was heroic. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #265
Nope, I voiced my specific objections in two OPs. stevenleser Oct 2017 #266
Your specific objections can be summarized thusly: Ken Burch Oct 2017 #269
I lulz'd KG Oct 2017 #178
yep... samnsara Oct 2017 #182
Says a male. KPN Oct 2017 #186
Nope, the conference organizers, who are women, all acknowledged the choice was controversial stevenleser Oct 2017 #211
Okay I can play that game. KPN Oct 2017 #214
No game, your argument fails. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #219
Nope KPN Oct 2017 #228
Bingo! Your answer pretty much decimated this entire reason for this thread. nt Quixote1818 Oct 2017 #278
It's not your place to lecture a women's group as to who they should invite to speak. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #248
Again, see #253 below. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #255
They have the word Women in their title treestar Oct 2017 #189
Maxine Waters is the keynote speaker. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #196
I was under the impression that treestar Oct 2017 #197
Bernie's still opening it. But after the backlash, they announced Maxine pnwmom Oct 2017 #200
So basically they had a PR disaster on their hands after all the pushback they received emulatorloo Oct 2017 #202
they said they announced the keynote as Waters weeks ago. Do you have an article or evidence you've JCanete Oct 2017 #231
Yeah, that's what they're saying now. But as of Sept 19th they still weren't confirming Maxine pnwmom Oct 2017 #232
but it's October 14th now, and the backlash started a couple days ago. when was she confirmed JCanete Oct 2017 #233
The backlash came when they announced Bernie, and Tamika appeared to confirm pnwmom Oct 2017 #234
appeared to confirm? JCanete Oct 2017 #235
Yes. She didn't correct the reporter who used the word "headliner" to refer to Bernie, pnwmom Oct 2017 #240
Bernie is the first speaker; Maxine is the keynote Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #205
I need to find out who is the keynote as treestar Oct 2017 #217
In other news: man lectures women about stuff. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #221
Nope, the conference organizers, who are women, all acknowledged they knew the choice would be stevenleser Oct 2017 #227
No, they didn't validate your opionion. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #250
That is validating my opinion stevenleser Oct 2017 #253
They are simply validating the idea that not everyone would agree about their decision. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #256
And in doing so, validated the opinion and also took it out of the realm stevenleser Oct 2017 #258
He shouldn't speak at the conference. But this shouldn't be another excuse to go after him. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #237
Bill Clinton headlined their gala. Sienna86 Oct 2017 #263
Looks like he headlined the Emily's List Award Gala ucrdem Oct 2017 #264
LOL shanny Oct 2017 #271
Also they waited to tell them about this decision so many felt that was wrong too. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #274
I'm happy that the organizers made the right decision and moved Bernie to a break out session stevenleser Oct 2017 #282
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