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Dark n Stormy Knight

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58. I know just what you mean. I got to where I wanted to ask those parents why they sent their kids
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 06:36 PM
Oct 2017

to school at all. Apparently they already know everything you want them to know. Of course, they would call it brainwashing. Must demonize critical examination of beliefs that deep down you know are on shaky ground if you think questioning can destroy them.

But, I have to say, it wasn't just the so-called Christians who were rejecting critical thinking & reasoning. At least where I taught for nearly 20 years, there were some who just found it too difficult. Not that I believe it was in fact beyond their ability. It was just an lousy attitude.

Two stories to illustrate:

1. At a parent teacher conference I was saying how little Johnny Doe seemed reluctant to participate in class , though he was improving. The father said, "Look, I hated school, my father before me hated school, and his father before him hated it, and so on down the line. So, you can be damn sure my son is going to hate school!" He wouldn't have it any other way.

2. For over the Thanksgiving break one year I gave a homework assignment (I know, tyrant!) and suggested the kids get a relative to work the word problem with them. When the kid came back to class after the long weekend he handed me a note that said something to the effect of, "How dare you give little Jane such a hard problem. We had everyone in the family working on it and nobody could figure it out! You expect too much of these kids!"

I can't remember if it was close enough to my burning out entirely for me to have sent a note back saying this, but I had given that same problem in class the previous year and a majority of my 3rd grade students, working in small groups, figured out the answer within the 45 minute class.




Your conclusion is so important greymattermom Oct 2017 #1
I agree Butterflylady Oct 2017 #2
Which is why they gut education at every opportunity EOM The Mouth Oct 2017 #6
Welcome to DU, The Mouth! calimary Oct 2017 #20
Thanks The Mouth Oct 2017 #26
I am sure that critical thinking skills can be taught. I've done it. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2017 #33
I am a tutor at a community college. susanna Oct 2017 #40
Keep up the good work. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2017 #41
Thank you. susanna Oct 2017 #63
I love you! Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #44
Thank you! susanna Oct 2017 #64
I've taught it as well, and agree that it's vitally important. maddiemom Oct 2017 #52
I know just what you mean. I got to where I wanted to ask those parents why they sent their kids Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2017 #58
You can sell snake oil to trump voters, because they are so naive. dubyadiprecession Oct 2017 #3
As far as you can, stay in contact, keep adding facts gratuitous Oct 2017 #4
I only know one Trump voter wryter2000 Oct 2017 #5
'Republicans did that? That should be totally illegal!' annabanana Oct 2017 #7
Good job! KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #8
There's only two types of Republicans: the rich and the stupid. RedSpartan Oct 2017 #9
+1000000. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2017 #10
Yep workinclasszero Oct 2017 #11
Don't forget the racist/sexist Juliusseizure Oct 2017 #46
Well there is the rich AND stupid LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #56
Its like that across the country. Most of them dont know or have been mislead by Fox. lancelyons Oct 2017 #12
Yes, many gave been conned and mislead... Beartracks Oct 2017 #28
Too bad you didn't ask him to tell more of the "all over" PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #13
The "all over" is RW code for Turbineguy Oct 2017 #23
Good work. iamateacher Oct 2017 #14
You did good. Thnx. zentrum Oct 2017 #15
Note the sentence..."I get my news from all over". Xolodno Oct 2017 #16
That is what my relative tells me iamateacher Oct 2017 #30
EXCELLENT point. calimary Oct 2017 #34
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #37
I have found that code to mean... Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #45
What newspapers do you read? maddiemom Oct 2017 #60
Great post "byronius" C Moon Oct 2017 #17
oh you did a wonderful job bdamomma Oct 2017 #18
stupidity and ignorance NewJeffCT Oct 2017 #19
You done good! And as I suspected, they're uninformed, don't follow issues or facts... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #21
For this country to work not fooled Oct 2017 #50
True. I wonder what they would have done about these things. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #59
Catch more flies with honey Roland99 Oct 2017 #22
I just love these stories. B2G Oct 2017 #24
I would call this an account of an encounter ChubbyStar Oct 2017 #29
Stories is correct... N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2017 #54
I was talking about the connotation of the word not denotation ChubbyStar Oct 2017 #62
Probably indicative of most Trump voters. Kablooie Oct 2017 #25
Thank you for trying. I personally do not have the patience to deal with such gross ignorance. LonePirate Oct 2017 #27
Agree, I have to leave that job to very kind and patient people. SharonClark Oct 2017 #38
Most importantly, did you wash your hands afterwards? TheBlackAdder Oct 2017 #31
That is the problem in a nutshell Moral Compass Oct 2017 #32
Exactly not fooled Oct 2017 #61
Change comes . . . peggysue2 Oct 2017 #35
you lucky S.O.B D_Master81 Oct 2017 #36
I cannot imagine that. byronius Oct 2017 #39
Does it DownriverDem Oct 2017 #48
Nice post, byronius. And well done. VOX Oct 2017 #42
You are a better person than me, byronius HAB911 Oct 2017 #43
I wish you would have asked him. DownriverDem Oct 2017 #47
I think you made an impact :) JHan Oct 2017 #49
Is our education system lacking, our media as well, or are some just not paying attention? brush Oct 2017 #51
"not you typical Trumpling?" relayerbob Oct 2017 #53
When did Obama legalize gay marriage? stopbush Oct 2017 #55
Mushy. Very mushy non-logic on all fronts. Pleasant fellow, no ground beneath his feet. byronius Oct 2017 #57
Saving America by de-programming one glassy-eyed uninformed voter at a time! struggle4progress Oct 2017 #65
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