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Snackshack

(2,540 posts)
129. Yes.
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 02:01 AM
Nov 2017

Unfortunately the way system is built it is almost impossible for a third party candidate to run for president.

Yes, he should run as what he is comradebillyboy Nov 2017 #1
Yes. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #2
At this point yes, more bad than good came out of him running as a dem uponit7771 Nov 2017 #3
Yes. And my preferece is he work directly for the GOP and "help' them out for a change. GeneMcM Nov 2017 #120
Yes, he should have run as an Independent. Doodley Nov 2017 #4
yes n/t handmade34 Nov 2017 #5
Everyone saying yes to this is crazy Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #6
Agreed. Garrett78 Nov 2017 #10
You're right, because time machines don't exist. kcr Nov 2017 #32
Nationally he would have been just a blip on the radar if he'd run as an independent. brush Nov 2017 #36
Yet Stein is basically the anti-christ on here who cost Clinton the election Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #37
Just look at the early, southern primaries where he lost state after state. brush Nov 2017 #44
and being a blip is really what the democratic process is about...The fact that his exposure has JCanete Nov 2017 #50
He was known by politically active progressives and liberals, not to rank and file Dems. brush Nov 2017 #58
not than Hillary, no. I meant than stein. He would have more likely played spoiler, in the mold of JCanete Nov 2017 #67
"Basically, he shouldn't have run at all is the real message." Wow, I really did misunderstand. brush Nov 2017 #70
heh, I didn't mean that was my message, and I disagree that would have been the result. nt JCanete Nov 2017 #73
Well what are you saying. Be clear. brush Nov 2017 #74
I meant anybody saying he should have run as an independent is really saying he shouldn't have run. JCanete Nov 2017 #77
Is there a reason that you can't accept that Bernie's ideas resonated? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #82
No one said his ideas didn't resonate. I'm saying as an independence who would've even been... brush Nov 2017 #116
If that were true. he would have been the nominee...he wasn't. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #122
Under the rules, no he wasn't. shanny Nov 2017 #126
Winning the nomination isn't the only test of resonance. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #132
Clinton loses those Southern states with or without Bernie on the ballot Jim Lane Nov 2017 #85
Check your headline. It makes no sense. brush Nov 2017 #117
Yes, I mean as an independent, per the OP. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #130
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Nov 2017 #135
You can never know how something not done would have gone karynnj Nov 2017 #123
Good points. Perot is an even more recent example. He took away enough votes from HW Bush... brush Nov 2017 #124
It is very interesting to me. Joe941 Nov 2017 #48
No. Clinton wouldn't have won the popular vote and the Dem Party would have been hurt more. Garrett78 Nov 2017 #7
I kindly disagree... flying_wahini Nov 2017 #12
Very few Trump voters would have voted for Sanders. Garrett78 Nov 2017 #15
I don't agree. louis c Nov 2017 #19
You might be surprised TexasBushwhacker Nov 2017 #22
I don't buy that...talk is cheap. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #41
yep here we go again. that instantance without any evidence at all. GeneMcM Nov 2017 #127
There were Obama to Trump voters Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #23
I don't think that is true. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #40
Which part? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #46
That is refighting the primary...and if Sen. Sanders had not run at all, Hillary Clinton would be Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #53
No there were Republicans who switched to Obama and then switched back to voting Republican emulatorloo Nov 2017 #80
My son is now an ardent Trump supporter MadCrow Nov 2017 #31
Your son is a right winger...you have my sympathies...and I don't think anyone who could vote Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #39
I'm doing a project for a customer who says... Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #42
I find that to be bullshit...talk is cheap.The righties would love to keep the Bernie/Hillary Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #55
and we don't know what ammo was waiting for another candidate delisen Nov 2017 #102
I was a Bernie supporter MadCrow Nov 2017 #128
The "passion" for Sanders on the campuses wasn't enough to motivate them them to vote for him lunamagica Nov 2017 #59
exactly... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #121
I think people are looking for someone to blame. Joe941 Nov 2017 #49
His claims of not splitting the vote are not believable when you match them R B Garr Nov 2017 #8
Yes. MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #9
I admire Bernie as a gadfly and visionary. I never thought he had much chance as a highplainsdem Nov 2017 #11
Better for him in what way? Not financially. Not electorally. No, it wouldn't have been seaglass Nov 2017 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author jalan48 Nov 2017 #14
Thats what he is, isnt he? EffieBlack Nov 2017 #16
As an independent he can pick and choose what Dem positions he wants to embrace...but just don't Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #24
He also ran as a Democrat for the publicity mythology Nov 2017 #17
And spent most of the money he received as publicity instead of helping the party and the DNC. coolsandy Nov 2017 #20
What difference did it make? (NT) louis c Nov 2017 #18
Absolutely..he would have disappeared from the scene Fresh_Start Nov 2017 #21
Yes. It would have been more honest in the end. Blaukraut Nov 2017 #25
"the system was stacked against him" LexVegas Nov 2017 #26
No doubt about it. Primaries are fully being re-fought. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #27
Knowing what we know now... radical noodle Nov 2017 #28
Yes, he would have been honest WhiteTara Nov 2017 #29
And his candidate profile got help from Russia pandr32 Nov 2017 #56
Scary, isn't it? WhiteTara Nov 2017 #72
Many do not want to acknowledge Russia's hand pandr32 Nov 2017 #114
and Bernie and supporters have been much too slow to acknowledge delisen Nov 2017 #113
I believe Sanders has been mum about it as well. pandr32 Nov 2017 #115
hey should have gotten off the stage if he wasn't going to join the Democrat party Rene Nov 2017 #30
"Democrat" Party? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #45
Good catch. delisen Nov 2017 #101
I'd rather he had run away over the horizon. DavidDvorkin Nov 2017 #33
Condescending remarks????? moda253 Nov 2017 #34
Have had. nt Codeine Nov 2017 #35
Indeed. Good catch. Joe941 Nov 2017 #47
Yes, I would have rather Sen. Sanders run as an independent...the damage to the party would not have Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #38
Yes. Tavarious Jackson Nov 2017 #43
Yes. Even if we lost last election as a result, liquid diamond Nov 2017 #51
Ralph Nader updated for 2016? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #52
Of course it would have split the progressive vote. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #86
We always need to be prepared for the third party delisen Nov 2017 #109
And Democrats can hope to appeal to the third party voters. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #110
Bernie is not a Democrat. Bernie is not Presidential material as he could not democratisphere Nov 2017 #54
Sanders does not define as Democrat, but his voting record is 95% democrat Reiyuki Nov 2017 #57
I'm reminded of this quote from a recent Daily Beast post NurseJackie Nov 2017 #66
So I guess Bernie is part of the establishment he delisen Nov 2017 #111
It's a useless question. He wouldn't have run as an independent under any circumstances Ken Burch Nov 2017 #60
Actually it's an interesting question. He may have, and he still may. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #71
The guy has based his entire political strategy on working in alliance with Dems. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #75
LOL! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #76
When you respond like that, it's an admission that you have no argument against what I've said. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #79
LOL! It's an "admission" of no such thing. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #81
There's nothing to laugh about. Ken Burch Nov 2017 #87
LOL NurseJackie Nov 2017 #88
Ok...if you're saying "wrong", what ELSE do you think we disagree about? Ken Burch Nov 2017 #91
Oh brother! NurseJackie Nov 2017 #92
OK...I hadn't thought of an assessment of what a particular politician might do Ken Burch Nov 2017 #106
No, I don't wish he'd run as a spoiler. But I do wish... moriah Nov 2017 #61
Yes.because it would have shown honesty. The fact that he changed to independent when he didn't get lunamagica Nov 2017 #62
Not if it meant Bernie would be a Ralph Nader II. VOX Nov 2017 #63
No. I'd rather that he had conceded by early May when the mathematical loss occurred, pnwmom Nov 2017 #64
This is the sad, pathetic and unvarnished truth. So many things could have been... NurseJackie Nov 2017 #89
I'm tired of these endless falsehoods about Bernie's campaigning for Hillary. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #90
You're right. He finally endorsed her on July 12, more than 2 months after her win was certain. pnwmom Nov 2017 #97
Just the links I gave show that the quotation from "USA Today" is false. Jim Lane Nov 2017 #98
No. treestar Nov 2017 #65
Yes. If you are an independent then you should run as one. If you want to run as a Dem than you Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #68
YES! Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #69
Yes mainstreetonce Nov 2017 #78
At this point yes. From what I've seen the last few days, this party is in terminal decline LittleBlue Nov 2017 #83
It would have made the Russians' jobs a lot easier. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2017 #84
At the time I thought he was fine running as a Dem. CTyankee Nov 2017 #93
No. I was glad to vote for him in the Democratic primary. David__77 Nov 2017 #94
If Bernie had won the nomination Jeb Bush would be in the WHite House today. mikehiggins Nov 2017 #95
The system was not remotely stacked against him. He had every opportunity to win. StevieM Nov 2017 #96
How many peeps who say yes also attack Jill Stein for running as a green? LostOne4Ever Nov 2017 #99
I see your points. I'll just speak for myself but I don't want to run liberals out of the party but Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #105
From my point of view, the purity tests havent been from the liberals on this site LostOne4Ever Nov 2017 #134
It is not about the things you listed. It's about integrity and honesty. He changed back to lunamagica Nov 2017 #125
He never said he was going to be a democrat if he lost LostOne4Ever Nov 2017 #133
A "team player?" Not hardly. Adrahil Nov 2017 #100
In the words of some of his supporters he delisen Nov 2017 #107
He reminds me of.... Adrahil Nov 2017 #108
I'd rather he not have run at all NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #103
Is a Democratic Socialist a "Democrat"? kentuck Nov 2017 #104
Jill Stein was an I... Peachhead22 Nov 2017 #112
I'm not sure that Jill Stein took votes away from Democrats? kentuck Nov 2017 #118
Prefered having a spoiler candidate? No of course not. Kentonio Nov 2017 #119
Yes. Snackshack Nov 2017 #129
hell yes. ucrdem Nov 2017 #131
I Would of {sic} Still Voted for Hillary Clinton. MineralMan Nov 2017 #136
I think it would've been a grand statement if he had done so. romanic Nov 2017 #137
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