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n2doc

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11. Data is data
Thu Nov 9, 2017, 06:28 AM
Nov 2017

But interpretation is something else. Those rich and middle class voters in the article always vote R. That's their Base. It is the ones that came in the last election and switched that made it possible for Trump to win, unlike Romney.

Kicking and Rec'ing! Habibi Nov 2017 #1
A full -- the best! -- THIRD of white working class male voters Hortensis Nov 2017 #31
If a third voted Dem who did the other two thirds-vote for? brush Nov 2017 #110
Can't follow the reasoning, but let's make it simple: Hortensis Nov 2017 #114
Read my headline and post again. brush Nov 2017 #116
This. Nt cwydro Nov 2017 #119
if they voted for Trump they are involved in the political process. and they told us why they voted JI7 Nov 2017 #2
Most Trump voters were middle class to wealthy. Tobin S. Nov 2017 #4
everyone who voted for him is shit. and there is nothing wrong with calling out the low income JI7 Nov 2017 #6
Jesus Christ! The problem is that you guys are calling ALL of us shit and bigots. Tobin S. Nov 2017 #7
we do. but we don't continually get people going on about the goodness of those groups JI7 Nov 2017 #8
Actually, people are calling the Bettie Nov 2017 #57
That is nonsense...my own son is 'working class' although after being laid off from GM is seems Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #91
Just in case you haven't had time to read the whole thread... mia Nov 2017 #92
Tobin did not vote for the Shitstain. cwydro Nov 2017 #120
I'll delete the post since it doesn't address Tobin's concern. I think my response is #95... Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #121
I'm with JI7 on this one. Aristus Nov 2017 #107
You've said it far better than I could have. GoneOffShore Nov 2017 #139
I think you're onto a sad truth. maddiemom Nov 2017 #160
Not around here. sarah FAILIN Nov 2017 #25
Anyone who voted for the Nazi-in-Chief is a POS... period! Fuck them all!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #32
My 26 year old son is an electrician, and everyone he works with voted for Trump adigal Nov 2017 #145
I don't do stats but the people I know who voted for Trump onit2day Nov 2017 #164
Just amazing how all those rich and middle class voters just happen to live out in the sticks n2doc Nov 2017 #3
Did you read the article? I thought the Washington Post was a respected news source here. Tobin S. Nov 2017 #5
Data is data n2doc Nov 2017 #11
Really? Tobin S. Nov 2017 #13
Okay I think the problem here is that you don't like being "lumped in" with Trump supporters. Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #95
This is my take on the post too nini Nov 2017 #161
You're on DU. Posters here are more knowledgeable than to assign a whole demograhic segment... brush Nov 2017 #112
I wish that were true. Stonepounder Nov 2017 #154
The groups in your last sentence are the ones who deserve all the scorn we heap upon them. brush Nov 2017 #156
Not to be argumentative or snarky, but now you know how we Southerners or Texans Stonepounder Nov 2017 #157
That's what I said about most on DU. Let's leave it at that. brush Nov 2017 #158
The media's interviews with voters conrtibute to our impression of each other. Jim Beard Nov 2017 #173
It is also true that many of these BlueMTexpat Nov 2017 #12
Don't blame me. I voted for Hillary. Tobin S. Nov 2017 #15
I'm not blaming YOU BlueMTexpat Nov 2017 #17
Well it's good to know that some of you here aren't. Or are you the only one? Tobin S. Nov 2017 #24
I doubt it. BlueMTexpat Nov 2017 #30
me too!! samnsara Nov 2017 #39
That map shows how Trump won nearly every state Wednesdays Nov 2017 #85
The county where I live and vote went the lightest pink in the general election. PufPuf23 Nov 2017 #129
I live in the sticks snpsmom Nov 2017 #9
That might be the reality where you live, but it is not representative of Trump's entire base. Tobin S. Nov 2017 #10
Hang in there, Tobin S. mia Nov 2017 #18
Same here. cwydro Nov 2017 #122
Not sure what your problem is with what I said snpsmom Nov 2017 #150
You are correct Cosmocat Nov 2017 #56
They're missing the message, and we're not getting it out enough. Amimnoch Nov 2017 #14
The first half of your post was very good and you should have stopped right there. Tobin S. Nov 2017 #19
I have been following this thread to this point and I have to say mdbl Nov 2017 #41
Do fat people need to be shamed for eating too much? mythology Nov 2017 #67
I disagree - you're talking about physical addictions not stupid decisions mdbl Nov 2017 #77
I seriously doubt that you're going to get anywhere by reasoning with cult followers Cary Nov 2017 #82
I agree, just expose them for what they are and hope mdbl Nov 2017 #104
We can't save everyone Cary Nov 2017 #106
Just make them watch the shiney silver dollar you started spinning on the table Jim Beard Nov 2017 #174
Yes. By all means, shame them and tell them that they're terminally stupid. WillowTree Nov 2017 #100
Good luck with it. mdbl Nov 2017 #109
Good for you! Go shame the Hell out of 'em!! WillowTree Nov 2017 #115
And good luck with your love fests. mdbl Nov 2017 #118
The upper middle class who voted for Trump dont give a shit about your shaming. cwydro Nov 2017 #123
The sub thread kinda veered off topic, but that doesn't change the fact they should be ashamed of mdbl Nov 2017 #124
Well, for a fact, some unions turned their backs on Hillary in 2016 and voted for Trump and the mamas Nov 2017 #37
Referencing your link JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #16
Reference the data. Tobin S. Nov 2017 #21
It's a straw man argument mdbl Nov 2017 #45
I did not call working class people ignorant racists JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #68
PS JustAnotherGen Nov 2017 #69
Interesting article, indeed. tavernier Nov 2017 #20
Found this on NPR GreenEyedLefty Nov 2017 #29
That's in the ANES study; this says they put the overall 4 year college degree figure at 62% muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #42
you need to stop taking this stuff personally, the demographics are pretty clear and you are beachbum bob Nov 2017 #22
Stop taking it personally? Tobin S. Nov 2017 #26
A majority of white people did vote for trump. JI7 Nov 2017 #28
"every one"? Oh COME on. HughBeaumont Nov 2017 #58
? A majority of white men ... DID ... vote for Red Don. That doesn't mean demean them though uponit7771 Nov 2017 #65
Well, I repeatedly (and still) call them idiot racist fuckheads Orrex Nov 2017 #89
"Not all white working class men," I guess. Orrex Nov 2017 #72
How many time are you gonna say you guys? MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #75
What? DiverDave Nov 2017 #23
Dude. Tobin S. Nov 2017 #27
Wow DiverDave Nov 2017 #52
If you've voted for a straight leftynyc Nov 2017 #54
I don't look down on anybody but Trump voters. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #64
You're ... NOT ... the statistic people are talking about here uponit7771 Nov 2017 #66
Tobin has a big heart. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #63
You're talking to the wrong folks here maxrandb Nov 2017 #33
What an excellent idea! Am waiting for a response. In the meantime: Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #50
Democrats already know that not all maxrandb Nov 2017 #74
Yes please: Let us know how that conversation goes AND Get back to us with your results! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #76
Yes! Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #96
As far as I am concerned, anyone who voted for trump was well aware he still_one Nov 2017 #34
Keep writing and talking about this, Tobin S. democrank Nov 2017 #35
makes it difficult to spot the trolls sometimes. mdbl Nov 2017 #46
Please post a few examples of DUers attacking white working men as one monolithic group BamaRefugee Nov 2017 #36
here is one that hurt my feelings questionseverything Nov 2017 #130
I was adressing Tobin or whoever the OP was, sorry for any confusion n/t BamaRefugee Nov 2017 #134
you asked...But posts that simply blame that entire group? Nah. Don't think so. questionseverything Nov 2017 #136
that was the point I was making. He picked out 3 lines out of a thread with HUNDREDS of responses BamaRefugee Nov 2017 #137
ur post that i responded to said,there were no posts like that questionseverything Nov 2017 #138
actually i said "post 3 to 5 DISCUSSIONS where white males were attacked end masse" BamaRefugee Nov 2017 #159
agree on GO DEMS!! questionseverything Nov 2017 #165
Being born and bred in Bama...that won't happen! BamaRefugee Nov 2017 #167
what we need to happen is "sane" repubs back a write in campaign questionseverything Nov 2017 #170
Preach!!! I hate i see polls pointing how the educated voted. Against who? mfcorey1 Nov 2017 #38
Politics of marginalizing v. recruitng HopeAgain Nov 2017 #40
your last line really sums it up questionseverything Nov 2017 #171
Tobin S... NCTraveler Nov 2017 #43
Tobin, I agree that we all need to stop hanging labels.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2017 #44
As much as I enjoy a good scolding, maybe you can clarify something: Orrex Nov 2017 #47
THIS ehrnst Nov 2017 #49
You do understand that most things you talk about also apply to working class people of color ehrnst Nov 2017 #48
I have had my absolute fill of that bullshit Cosmocat Nov 2017 #55
My husband comes from a long line of union people. redstatebluegirl Nov 2017 #51
I've been in that boat my entire life. Hard work and never made big money. I'm just under 40k brewens Nov 2017 #53
I had no idea how hard it is to be a white man in America. nt LexVegas Nov 2017 #59
People who feel ENTITLED are dismayed when others ACHIEVE. NurseJackie Nov 2017 #62
Damn straight! I'm not even allowed to own concubines or field slaves anymore. Orrex Nov 2017 #86
Facts are stubborn things DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #60
Your dad was amazing. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #135
Republicans don't have solutions for WWC workweek beside feel-good-now-racism & religion un-freedom Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #61
Exactly.. HipChick Nov 2017 #70
+1 dalton99a Nov 2017 #73
think about adding misogyny, always present. irisblue Nov 2017 #101
Ah misogyny it is baked into the whole she-bang PIE and cannot be separated. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #102
Income is an outdated indicator of how people vote. muntrv Nov 2017 #78
I would also throw education into that mix. smirkymonkey Nov 2017 #141
The average Republican isn't just a middle class to wealthy class white male voter. Baitball Blogger Nov 2017 #79
This makes allot more sense to me TNLib Nov 2017 #80
Sorry, but a lot of us poor whites are racist morons looking for someone to blame for their life. PubliusEnigma Nov 2017 #81
Trump voters are dupes...every. single. one. Moostache Nov 2017 #83
You upper body strength must be impressive . . . . hatrack Nov 2017 #84
Cry me a river.... BronxBoy Nov 2017 #87
This. BlueWI Nov 2017 #155
I wish I could 'rec' this post nini Nov 2017 #162
You has a sad? Have tissue, I've no sympathies to spare. procon Nov 2017 #88
"And they watch FOX and listen to right-wing radio" Initech Nov 2017 #90
We're supposed to be the party that DOESN'T divide people by race. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #93
They're working class, until you call them white working class. Iggo Nov 2017 #94
I fit the Trumpster demographic completely. Mr.Bill Nov 2017 #97
Know exactly what your talking about Va Lefty Nov 2017 #108
How About if you Live in WI??? Lifelong Protester Nov 2017 #98
I keep thinking about the movie brainwashing of my father kimbutgar Nov 2017 #99
I'm an AfAm woman and there are lots of smart fierce white men underthematrix Nov 2017 #103
I'm am also a black woman and I agree with you. Whether real or perceived, if poor white men feel SweetieD Nov 2017 #117
Thanks for posting. United we stand, divided we fall. jalan48 Nov 2017 #105
They made their bed, now they can lay in it samir.g Nov 2017 #111
Only chickens lay. cwydro Nov 2017 #166
My response: Garrett78 Nov 2017 #113
Tobin, its obvious you hit a very sensitive nerve here. cwydro Nov 2017 #125
The working class used to be zentrum Nov 2017 #126
Could you please define "working class"? TygrBright Nov 2017 #127
Evangelicals, aka "Fake Christians" overwhelmingly voted for Trump. liberalmuse Nov 2017 #128
The working class is comprised overwhelmingly of people of color and women BainsBane Nov 2017 #131
I don't get why you think we are talking about people like you. lark Nov 2017 #132
I think the reason "they" say that is because the white working male group in 3 states.... Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #133
I, for one, am sick of to death of hearing about white male grievance, and this is just another.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #140
Shockingly, income does not equal 'class.' The MSM just keeps assuming that TrollBuster9090 Nov 2017 #142
Absolutely!! MountCleaners Nov 2017 #144
Yep, it's a soft prejudice of the media. Without doing actual research, they just assume that TrollBuster9090 Nov 2017 #163
Why not just vote their interests? treestar Nov 2017 #143
Tobin doesn't really need my help or support, perhaps, but I'd point this out: PatrickforO Nov 2017 #146
I don't care why they're racist. (n/t) Iggo Nov 2017 #147
Great, so you're gonna do...what? PatrickforO Nov 2017 #148
"...so you're gonna do...what?" Iggo Nov 2017 #149
they say the NFL Stands for "N...... for Life" JI7 Nov 2017 #169
Sorry, this link reveals the uncomfortable truth Awsi Dooger Nov 2017 #151
This white working class chick has never voted for a sTrumpet. raven mad Nov 2017 #152
I think the question is this: if people voted for 45 because he supported AJT Nov 2017 #153
I belong to the demographic of old fat bald white man. I've actually had people look at me... NNadir Nov 2017 #168
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