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LisaM

(27,800 posts)
12. Times *do* change, but 11 years isn't that long ago.
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 09:00 AM
Nov 2017

I'd have thought this was much earlier.

Anyway, example of changed times, 20 years ago I used to do a lot of lap swimming, and let me tell you, men used that as an excuse to grope. There was one guy in particular who could not keep his hands in his lane. If he was there, I would move over to a slower lane - less exercise for me - to avoid him, figuring there was no point in saying anything. I think women now would call him out. I probably should have but wouldn't have expected anyone to even care, and I think it points to a kind of resigned acceptance we all had.

I wouldn't say it traumatized me but it caused me to alter my behavior, AND, I never forgot it.

We really need to stop comparing the two. You are 100% correct. secondwind Nov 2017 #1
She was there only because her work included nude modeling Cicada Nov 2017 #2
A kiss for a stage act, remember that. Not saying he should have done it. But this is chicken LBM20 Nov 2017 #3
Only Women Bleed hexola Nov 2017 #4
KISS used to encourage their audiences to get high. NOW they tell them NOT to drive LBM20 Nov 2017 #5
The woman claims Franken forcefully kissed her without her consent oberliner Nov 2017 #6
The kiss is the real offense - the photo is sort of backfiring hexola Nov 2017 #7
The story is the key. liberal_patriot_md Nov 2017 #10
If It was without consent then why does she say this .... I said OK Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #16
The difference isn't as important as the optics dpd3672 Nov 2017 #8
If you think liberal_patriot_md Nov 2017 #11
And Trump is on tape talking about pussy grabbing. PLAY IT AGAIN SAM. The Right has NO CASE! LBM20 Nov 2017 #14
"Times Change" is not really a good argument oberliner Nov 2017 #9
Times *do* change, but 11 years isn't that long ago. LisaM Nov 2017 #12
Context is always very important. There are levels of things and there is ZERO equivalency between LBM20 Nov 2017 #15
Why is this about COMPARING sexual misconduct toward women? Equinox Moon Nov 2017 #13
All mistreatment of ANYONE is wrong. But there are DEGREES of things. I am talking about LBM20 Nov 2017 #17
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