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Orsino

(37,428 posts)
5. Who knows?
Fri Nov 17, 2017, 12:30 PM
Nov 2017

We don't. A snapshot is not evidence of harassment/assault. It only puts the accused and the alleged target together at the scene. I think there's more we could learn from anyone else nearby.

I'm trying to check myself on my eagerness to hear that the accusation is groundless or exaggerated. Isn't that rational?

Fuck. This. Shit. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #1
It's CNN that keeps calling the photo a banana lame54 Nov 2017 #2
It's a flak jacket you fools. Sneederbunk Nov 2017 #3
She has also accused him of forcibly kissing her against her will oberliner Nov 2017 #4
Really? Having looked into who she is...rightie...and how Hannity and Stone knew in advance... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #7
I believe women who come forward about claims of sexual assault oberliner Nov 2017 #9
many women are serial liars. any claim should be investigated on its own merit nt msongs Nov 2017 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #20
Many women are serial liars? oberliner Nov 2017 #26
Jesus Christ thats disturbing ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #30
And many men are serial sexual abusers mythology Nov 2017 #47
interesting..... Fla_Democrat Nov 2017 #55
Holy shit, this is offensive. Gravitycollapse Nov 2017 #59
It's not always true. I had a nutjob neighbor woman get caught claiming sexual assault. She brewens Nov 2017 #28
I think your going to far neohippie Nov 2017 #29
You should not automatically believe or disbelieve treestar Nov 2017 #48
Most women who come forward PatSeg Nov 2017 #50
On the one hand you have Leeann panader0 Nov 2017 #62
I don't. And I am a woman...and I have been assaulted in fact. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #67
Crystal Mangum and other women have been proven wrong. It is possible for women to lie, pnwmom Nov 2017 #78
Seriously, if Sarah Silverman claimed that Marco Rubio Cosmocat Nov 2017 #34
It depends on the circumstances, but I can promise you that the GOP would treat it as a lie Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #66
agree that the kissing against her will is more serious NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #11
The photo of the groping is not part of "a comedy skit" oberliner Nov 2017 #27
the photo was part of a cd that was given out to every1 on the tour questionseverything Nov 2017 #82
Exactly oberliner Nov 2017 #87
I would agree, but the kiss was part of the script for the skit she agreed to take part in. Gore1FL Nov 2017 #19
She said she did not want to kiss him in the skit (and didn't) oberliner Nov 2017 #24
Actors rehearse. Gore1FL Nov 2017 #40
Actors don't stick their tongues down people's throats in a rehearsal for a USO comedy skit oberliner Nov 2017 #68
I'll take your word for it over my decades of experience as an actor and playwright. nt Gore1FL Nov 2017 #71
She didn't tell HIM that she didn't want to kiss him. Telling US, after the fact, is not the same.nt pnwmom Nov 2017 #80
Yes, she did oberliner Nov 2017 #88
She didn't say that in the written statement. Please post the link where you heard her say that. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #89
against her will Larrybanal Nov 2017 #21
Al Franken wrote the script for the skit oberliner Nov 2017 #23
And apparently it was a good thing the writer wrote that Nevernose Nov 2017 #54
And his official escort has said that was a lie obamanut2012 Nov 2017 #33
I'd love to see a valid link for this because I haven't yet RandomAccess Nov 2017 #56
If you can name this "official escort", you have a world scoop. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #73
This is the "far more disturbing" claim since it is the ONLY remaining claim Atticus Nov 2017 #38
Nowhere in her statement does she say that she told him not to kiss her pnwmom Nov 2017 #77
Who knows? Orsino Nov 2017 #5
It. Doesn't. Matter. RandomAccess Nov 2017 #6
Let me answer this ...NO. We will not throw our own under the bus with no real evidence...and Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #8
Beat me to it.. mikeysnot Nov 2017 #22
Franken absolutely handled with with great class RandomAccess Nov 2017 #60
thats how wrong wingers work mikeysnot Nov 2017 #70
She is a liar and you have to want to believe her to find her bullshit credible. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #64
Who wants to throw him under any bus? RandomAccess Nov 2017 #57
It does matter what her politics are as she is a righty plant...the GOP throws shit our way and then Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #63
bullshit Larrybanal Nov 2017 #25
By all means wait for facts RandomAccess Nov 2017 #61
But it does matter. kcr Nov 2017 #53
What's weird to me is Hannity saying he saw the photo years ago but kept mum all these years. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #65
thats ok MFM008 Nov 2017 #10
Best guess, Wellstone ruled Nov 2017 #12
She'll be well compensated by the RW media machine Boomerproud Nov 2017 #13
They always are. louis-t Nov 2017 #15
And videohead5 Nov 2017 #31
That's riiiight. Forgot about that. louis-t Nov 2017 #46
I was just about to add this. Thank you. jrthin Nov 2017 #52
Amazing difference from the time she entered the game, and after playing her part. Judi Lynn Nov 2017 #79
Track records and reputation matter. Al Franken has my vote of confidence. oasis Nov 2017 #16
"Yeah, but WHO KNOWS where his hands were just before or just after that photo!" George II Nov 2017 #17
No, the photo does not show any groping. In act, the woman herself cannot attest to groping... Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #18
I want to videohead5 Nov 2017 #32
Yup, and his official military escort stated her version of the rehearsal obamanut2012 Nov 2017 #36
Why aren't? videohead5 Nov 2017 #39
I believe this was an orchestrated hatchet job. ananda Nov 2017 #35
Simple Test Pinna Nov 2017 #37
Just a couple observations about your test: Atticus Nov 2017 #44
Fair point on the "ok" Pinna Nov 2017 #45
Do you think a plane containing comedians and other entertainers in a combat zone Atticus Nov 2017 #49
So its acceptble to you... Lee-Lee Nov 2017 #72
Sorry, you don't get to pronounce what I find "acceptable", especially when Atticus Nov 2017 #74
No one's saying that sexual assault should be a laughing matter, or that Franken shouldn't have pnwmom Nov 2017 #81
Franken is leading the charge against Sessions for lying about his contacts with the Russians. jalan48 Nov 2017 #41
It's strange, as in one photo, I see space between his hands and in whathehell Nov 2017 #42
I posted this comment on another site and it's just my take for what it's worth. Mr. Evil Nov 2017 #43
That Ms. "Tweedy's photo does NOT show actual physical contact has now been accepted by" bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #51
There were at least two other men in the room at the time ecstatic Nov 2017 #58
"but would 2 grown men sit idly by while a woman was being molested in her sleep" oberliner Nov 2017 #69
Obviously, we associate with a different class of men. nt Atticus Nov 2017 #75
Huh? oberliner Nov 2017 #76
oh for christ sake, now it's a gang rape? The_Casual_Observer Nov 2017 #84
No, obviously not oberliner Nov 2017 #85
"There's the sign post up ahead---" nt Atticus Nov 2017 #90
Men sit idly by while other men do inappropriate things to women oberliner Nov 2017 #91
WTF? Homeoutside Nov 2017 #83
The poster above used that terminology oberliner Nov 2017 #86
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