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Denzil_DC

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23. I saw a few, I think relatively early on. Other than that, it's a strawman.
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:54 AM
Nov 2017

Here's a sad aspect to the story:

Al Franken wrote a bill to help rape survivors like me. He can’t lead on it now.

In November 2014, I was raped.

I’m certainly not the only one something this awful has happened to, but afterward, I felt as though I was. I was a 19-year-old college student. My life changed overnight. I faced an incredibly long fight to bring my attacker to justice: Daniel Drill-Mellum was wealthy, well-connected, and willing to throw me and my reputation under the bus. The #MeToo culture I’ve seen develop publicly over the last month wasn’t around to help me then. I was nearly harassed off the University of Minnesota campus for reporting. I was turned away by the Minneapolis Police Department despite the mountain of evidence in my case.

Over the next two years, I learned how to hold my frustration in, because I had an end goal in mind. I knew that my attacker belonged in prison, and I was determined to get the justice system on my side. I made mental notes about everything that was going wrong. I tried to have patience that someday I could make a different world. When my rapist was sentenced in August 2016 to six years in prison, I finally had my chance.

I sought help from Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.). He took up my cause without hesitation, and he worked with his aides to draft legislation to pay for training to help police departments treat assault survivors with more concern for what we’ve been through. But now that allegations have come out that Franken himself assaulted a woman years ago, I want another lawmaker to sponsor the bill we worked so hard on. This work deserves to be led by those without a history of sexual harassment or assault.

The news this week was especially disappointing for me because of how effective an advocate Franken has been for my cause. I felt my heart sink when I saw the news, but I was prepared to support the woman involved. I remember what it was like to be shamed and not believed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/18/al-franken-wrote-a-bill-to-help-rape-survivors-like-me-he-cant-lead-on-it-now/


If anybody wants to click through, they'll see the sort of work Franken's been involved in, and how sensitively he and his staff have handled the process of helping this woman frame the bill. She now wants to find a female congressperson to sponsor it instead.

I hope it's an overreaction to the early forms of this story, and she may revise her decision. Or perhaps it would be better if she can find a female senator to sponsor it, and Franken can offer whatever support is necessary, behind the scenes or from the floor. The problem with his involvement is Republican whataboutery. You'd hope a bill like this could find bipartisan agreement, but I doubt it.

It may shed some light on why Franken reacted like he did. The larger picture than his own career is the legislation he wants to pass and the changes he wants to come about - exactly as set out in his long statement. That's integrity.

I don't think any number of videos or pics of Tweeden cavorting onstage are likely to make Abby Honold feel differently, certainly not if Franken were ever to have a hand in relying on them as some sort of "defense" - especially in view of her own experience of the attempts to "throw me and my reputation under the bus". Or maybe she'll realize that this is more or less what's happened to Franken as her ally and change her mind.

What probably won't help change her mind is targeting somebody who comes forward with an allegation for her past behavior, however raunchy, given what she says above. Or maybe she'll join some here in resenting Tweeden for making false allegations, but that could be a slippery slope and she may not be able or willing to go there.

These are the stakes. This whole operation hasn't just targeted Franken, it's targeted the current wave of revulsion at revelations about how (especially powerful) men sometimes conduct themselves.

That's why I think Franken's reacted as he has, and why he's right to do so.

I might have made the above an OP, but I think we've had quite enough OPs about all this recently.
I was not pay much attention to the "kiss" since it clearly falls into "she said/he said" question everything Nov 2017 #1
The photo has shadows under the fingers that show he's not really touching her, pnwmom Nov 2017 #2
Of course he is not touching. This is a flat surface this is why is "cupping." question everything Nov 2017 #4
He apologized for the photo and she accepted his apology. pnwmom Nov 2017 #5
Yes, it should question everything Nov 2017 #6
And that's fine. I suspect she won't want to participate though. We'll see. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #7
Of course she won't since there are plenty of questionable photos coming out from that occasion still_one Nov 2017 #8
Right. They won't really want to set the precedent of investigating every single claim pnwmom Nov 2017 #9
"Republican operatives try to... use liberals decency against us." Beartracks Nov 2017 #3
That is exactly what they do. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #10
They did it to Shirley Sherrod for the same reason. wallyworld2 Nov 2017 #17
ffs give it a rest. Lil Missy Nov 2017 #11
Sure I will. As soon as people stop calling for him to resign. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #14
Its not necessary to cast aspersions on the victim. Nor should he resign Lil Missy Nov 2017 #15
Its POSSIBLE MFM008 Nov 2017 #16
You forgot Hannity in your list. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #25
She's NOT a victim.. she's a political operative.. rainlillie Nov 2017 #18
The ALLEGED victim. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #19
True that. n/t Beartracks Nov 2017 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #24
of course not azureblue Nov 2017 #28
I don't see anyone on here calling for that, though. moriah Nov 2017 #21
I think its pretty obvious Franken didn't write the skit for her specifically, considering LisaL Nov 2017 #22
I have no idea, truthfully. I'm going with what he's admitted to. moriah Nov 2017 #27
He didn't admit to "unwanted" tongue. LisaL Nov 2017 #30
Exactly. He didn't admit and it wouldn't be a crime here. moriah Nov 2017 #31
LisaL, where is the skit of Franken doing the act in 2003? I can't find it. n/t pnwmom Nov 2017 #34
The first video in your OP. LisaL Nov 2017 #37
That's funny. pnwmom Nov 2017 #39
Whoever twitted it apparently labeled it incorrectly. LisaL Nov 2017 #40
I saw a few, I think relatively early on. Other than that, it's a strawman. Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #23
If she wants another lawmaker to sponsor the bill, she will have to find another lawmaker to sponsor LisaL Nov 2017 #26
Tiger by the tail azureblue Nov 2017 #32
Well, meanwhile, unfortunately, all I can find on Google Denzil_DC Nov 2017 #33
K&R burrowowl Nov 2017 #12
K&R betsuni Nov 2017 #13
K and r. cwydro Nov 2017 #20
2003, 2003, 2003, 2003, 2003, 2003, 2003, 2003, 2003, 2003, 2003, 2003. rzemanfl Nov 2017 #29
With a different actress. This is an old skit. mainer Nov 2017 #35
Right. He was doing the same skit with a different actress in 2003. LisaL Nov 2017 #36
That's right. It was a three year old skit he wrote in anticipation of getting his tongue rzemanfl Nov 2017 #38
Thank you for not claiming she was lying because she showed her boobs in a men's magazine. Iggo Nov 2017 #41
Here's Franken talking about the skit in 2005 tammywammy Nov 2017 #42
I don't think he even made changes. It sounds like exact same skit was just repeated with different LisaL Nov 2017 #43
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