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Igel

(35,293 posts)
15. Define "public."
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 04:34 PM
Nov 2017

Do you have a job, perhaps running a company or a section of a company?

Or perhaps just a job, because while the allegations have been public they're only of note because of the people involved. If we go with anonymous allegations or 30-year-old allegations able to bring down prominent figures, think about the odds of an accountant or middle-management type having any chance to avoid being fired or disgraced.


A while back I was talking to a student. Looking at the student I was explaining things to, I swung my hand out to make a point. And my hand firmly contacted the breast of a female student who was walking by.

Was it sexual harassment?

Could be. If the student anonymously claimed--or even claimed with her name attached to the allegation--that I reached out and intended for my hand to land on her breast. Now, other students simply wouldn't remember the incident because it was brief and didn't involve them and the girl involved didn't point it out to them at the time. In other words, it's one of thousands of events that most students witness each day and promptly forget about. If not for the salience of these complaints, I'd probably not remember it. But looking around, if she made the charge I'd have no defense--and the mere act of defense would be taken as a kind of secondary non-repentance guilt that's much worse than the actual event. "He did this, and now he has the gall to deny it." Except that "it" is unproven.

I've suffered at the hands of anonymous informants or informants whose allegations were believed more than verified. It's reduced my trust of people quite a bit.

Thing is, though, I'm not important enough for the girl, in 10 years, to bother to complain about. If she doesn't complain by mid-summer 2018, I'm in the clear. But until then....

I have lived a less than exemplary life but I chose not to live it in the public square. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2017 #1
That is why a lot of us don't want to run for public office. Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #2
Turns out that living a clean life doesn't matter if you are a Republican VMA131Marine Nov 2017 #3
Very true, only if you are a Dem. nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #4
And then your fellow Dems will throw you under the bus. cwydro Nov 2017 #12
We have been known to eat our young. :( nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #14
You should now be able to run for office even if you haven't been perfect and incidents were LBM20 Nov 2017 #5
Define "public." Igel Nov 2017 #15
Yeah I completely understand tymorial Nov 2017 #27
I was an angelic child..... panader0 Nov 2017 #6
Right. And bears don't poop in the woods. (I know you are just being funny.) :-) LBM20 Nov 2017 #9
How many here could run for office and survive opposition research? wasupaloopa Nov 2017 #7
Yup. Virtually ALL of us have made some weak judgements (often when drinking). LBM20 Nov 2017 #10
I'm thankful that camera phones weren't around when I was 16-30 NightWatcher Nov 2017 #8
I don't. But, unlike Roy Moore, I never fucked children. Iggo Nov 2017 #11
No, no, no. Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #16
Obviously, very serious stuff like that is at a very different level. Moore needs to be gone. LBM20 Nov 2017 #20
what's idiodic is that our country uses past individuals' sexual histories to determine tax policy unblock Nov 2017 #13
Everything I do is perfectly evil. democratisphere Nov 2017 #17
Can we please have a serious discussion. LBM20 Nov 2017 #21
There is no such thing as a perfect past when you are dealing with imperfect humans. democratisphere Nov 2017 #28
there is clearly a range of magnitude for past deeds, but we often view our own far more harshly hlthe2b Nov 2017 #18
Redefining being Republican: Giving Trump his BILLION $$ tax break trumps child molestation. L. Coyote Nov 2017 #19
"I'm as pure as the driven slush." - Tallulah Bankhead nt Buns_of_Fire Nov 2017 #22
I'll never be President... hexola Nov 2017 #23
"Just as every cop is a criminal, and all the sinners Saints." - Rolling Stones Comatose Sphagetti Nov 2017 #24
I'm not sure "Nobody's perfect" is a good line to use outside of "Some Like It Hot." WinkyDink Nov 2017 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2017 #26
Nobody's arguing that Al Franken should be perfect... brooklynite Nov 2017 #29
False charges Cartoonist Nov 2017 #30
I once got angry with my GF at a Tori Amos show ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #31
I've Done Some Really Rascally Things in My Life Leith Nov 2017 #32
Ugh. What disgusting drivel. I can unequivocally state that I have never grabbed the ass or Squinch Nov 2017 #33
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