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In reply to the discussion: Al Franken still hasn't denied grabbing women [View all]oberliner
(58,724 posts)8. What about the points the Washington Post article raises?
Are they not reasonable?
In particular, how is he denying the accusations while at the same time apologizing for them?
Or is he not denying the claims?
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the women who groped me havent either...or apologized. Maybe I should post anonymous complaints
msongs
Nov 2017
#1
Hard to believe this is even debatable... regardless of anyone's opinion of
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#259
He's handling it better than men who have more credible witnesses, or you for that matter.
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#3
He directly apologized for the joke photo- that he did not call her out as a liar when she obviously
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#13
A liberal writer in the Washington Post is carrying water for Breitbart and Stone?
oberliner
Nov 2017
#16
she told at least three lies- the grope being depicted in the pic, the "kiss" being written in for
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#28
The willingness to engage in a staged kiss with a stranger, as part of a USO show
Ms. Toad
Nov 2017
#321
She was a paid professional while rehearsing and kissing him- and lied about it.
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#327
She was paid for by the USO to kiss at least two men. She lied about the circumstances of that...
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#337
WRONG. Let me tell just what Franken has said and what he IS saying, and it is obvious:
LBM20
Nov 2017
#344
It's more than being politically smart. Its not being vile. Something most molesters have in common
suffragette
Nov 2017
#47
Instead of debating what I said you keep repeating that. Seeing the same from "Revolution" folks who
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#51
huh? wasn't debating you... my response wasn't even directed to you at all and certainly
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#74
Sorry- so funny how that response was word for word the same as another DUer here....
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#229
There's a conspiracy of "fake concern" around this from purported lefties- same who ripped HRC to
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#264
It's absolutely fine you have that view, I don't disagree with you about bad actors on twitter...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#276
It's not merely "my view" it's the reality of our political situation. Fake liberal trolls abound.
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#328
You have been spent more than a day or two on this Obe, and so has DU, while net neutrality pretty
still_one
Nov 2017
#72
I asked the same question a couple of days ago. I think you've hit the nail on the head w this. nt
Doremus
Nov 2017
#225
Having waded through all the faux outrage and concern duly recited above, I am compelled to ask:
Atticus
Nov 2017
#351
I don't think anyone should WANT Franken gone...hell, I was hopin' he'd throw his hat in the ring
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#343
And.....here is the point....there is no equivalence between what Trump has done and Franken.....
ollie10
Nov 2017
#46
It might help if you could give us the entire quote....from Franken....including ALL the context....
ollie10
Nov 2017
#105
Still not falling for the nonsense. He's a warm and genuine person, not a groper.
Kimchijeon
Nov 2017
#11
"For some women" you think everyone has the same line? Some want no contact at all, others dry hump
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#33
He's clearly only admitted to taking that staged picture. In the meantime he has welcomed an
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#211
She was trashing people for calling out Trumps lies. Enough said. Not on our side. Not credible.
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#238
I think he's saying that he crossed whatever line the anonymous accusers perceive as a boundary.
lapucelle
Nov 2017
#42
That's their perogative. It is mine to withhold judgment until I can consider the source.
shanny
Nov 2017
#196
Some "left wing" Dems are eyeing Franken's seat. The Revolution is desperate enough to promote this.
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#39
The author of this WaPo opinion, Amber Phillips, has been described in this thread
The Velveteen Ocelot
Nov 2017
#45
Why so rude?!?!I am VERY proud to have voted for Bernie in the primary...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#119
lol, good one!! yes, frothing at the mouth... just because I'm torn over this issue...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#148
Yes, you'll get no disagreement from me... just wish I was permitted to have one too...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#322
So, the OP is misrepresenting this writer as liberal, as well as the piece being journalism by WaPo?
bettyellen
Nov 2017
#56
Franken was low-hanging fruit for the Republicans behind this spate of allegations.
Denzil_DC
Nov 2017
#75
And while Al Franken is lying beneath the Big Liberal Bus of Righteousness
The Velveteen Ocelot
Nov 2017
#102
How about admitting that he grabbed their butts (if that's what he did) and apologizing for same?
oberliner
Nov 2017
#71
I was trying to restrain myself in this thread, but DAY-UM! Gots to give PROPS, Orrex!
WinkyDink
Nov 2017
#335
Are you saying he doesn't know if he deliberately grabbed someone's butt or not?
oberliner
Nov 2017
#67
Trolling is make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting
oberliner
Nov 2017
#136
It's certainly a fair question... just another reason I have mixed feelings about this.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#156
You make some valid points... why I'm so torn over the whole Franken situation.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#153
Extremely complex... and why there are valid points to be made on BOTH sides.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#160
How do we know it's a real person? The responses are the kind a machine
bagelsforbreakfast
Nov 2017
#246
I am not trolling and I have attempted to address everyone who has engaged me seriously
oberliner
Nov 2017
#178
'... Franken doesn't want to get into the position of publicly expressing disbelief of the women.. '
crosinski
Nov 2017
#230
come on, stop this shit, let the Republicans and the corporate media do their thing...
steve2470
Nov 2017
#176
He's trying not to say these women are liars that's why he says he doesn't remember
blueinredohio
Nov 2017
#187
I think you've just summarized in one sentence what a lot of us have been saying.
Denzil_DC
Nov 2017
#190
I'm really not sure what Al Franken is trying to say, to be honest, but I know one thing for sure...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#342
Just because that's how you react, which is entirely fine, that doesn't mean, obviously, that
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2017
#224
Trump and Moore are without a doubt 100 percent guilty of the much more serious charges against them
oberliner
Nov 2017
#205
You don't seem to understand, that is what I am pointing out but there is zero evidence
doc03
Nov 2017
#359
I spent the entire election cycle defending Hillary Clinton against the Bernie folks
oberliner
Nov 2017
#222
There is clearly an agenda here. Attacking Richard Painter who is one of the biggest critics of the
JI7
Nov 2017
#227
No it's not. Attacking those who push right wing agenda is what this site is about. Mike flynn is
JI7
Nov 2017
#242
Robert Mueller is a Republican also. You did it to try to discredit Painter on his attacks on trump
JI7
Nov 2017
#270
Bush isn't in office anymore. The goal right now is to bring down trump such Franken and Painter
JI7
Nov 2017
#278
Okay it's wrong to grab anyone. But in no way is there any equivalency to his actions and that of
YOHABLO
Nov 2017
#235
Have you ever encountered anyone in real life who has heard of Democratic Underground?
oberliner
Nov 2017
#291
There are not nine postings of this same exact post from me going at one time
oberliner
Nov 2017
#301
In the court of public opinion, based on the evidence presented to us, the jury
Mr. Ected
Nov 2017
#320
Bearing in mind, they let the entire adult population of MN render the final verdict
brooklynite
Nov 2017
#325
I've defended the OP from such accusations in the past. I think I'll stop doing that.
Squinch
Nov 2017
#365
It started with Roy Moore's problem to take our national attention away from gun control to groping.
dubyadiprecession
Nov 2017
#380