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In reply to the discussion: The real question that the Ron Paul candidacy poses for Democrats [View all]JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)35. Nonsense: He's just like the rest of the Republican field...
except in the areas we're discussing here (at least in his rhetoric).
If "a racist 'knuckle dragging right winger' shouldn't even be a top contender for President," then your problem clearly is with the entire Republican field.
I submit the reason for your particular anger against Paul is that he outflanks the Democrats on essential issues of war and drug war.
Progressives aren't fooled by him, they merely look at all candidates including the incumbent and they see that no one else is talking about these issues. That's horrible.
So once again, are you ever going to answer?
Do YOU support current levels of defense spending? Do YOU support the drug war as currently pursued by the administration?
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JackRiddler
Jan 2012
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true, and it is a common political theme that can be highly effective during times of stress
got root
Jan 2012
#26
Yes, yes, we know he is an 'insane, racist, maniac' and that's the point raised in the
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#141
Your usual black-and-white misrepresentation of what I say begs the question...
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#10
Are you for the current levels of defense spending? Are you for the drug war?
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#15
So much greater is the shame for allowing such a shitbrick to steal space we should occupy
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#18
It isn't being a racist that is putting wind into Paul's sails and you well know it.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#128
You are arguing a completely distinct point and ignoring the one presented to you.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#154
Me too. Aside from the Machiavellian consideration that Paul would be
coalition_unwilling
Jan 2012
#36
there was a young man, who was filming the OWS protestors in NYC bring up his name as a canidate
got root
Jan 2012
#12
We have them already. Paul's on the other side, which means he might have to be answered.
DirkGently
Jan 2012
#130
They'll quickly come out against peace and personal liberty if the GOP deigns to own those issues
Leopolds Ghost
Jan 2012
#136
So Ron Paul candidacy could actually cause the Democ. party to have an auto-immune reaction against
Leopolds Ghost
Jan 2012
#137
I believe you owe answers to several in the thread--not the other way around
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2012
#187
You are missing the point. It doesn't matter what anyone on DU thinks of Paul.
sabrina 1
Jan 2012
#145
Note that Paul and the President share an opposition to marriage equalty. Why is that?
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2012
#45
He's a Rape-Publican. Those views WON'T "manifest." But that's not the topic under discussion.
ClassWarrior
Jan 2012
#179
That is the real story, Jack. Rather than demand the party kick the legs out from under
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#9
I read the post, and I consider it DANGEROUS that the post was hidden
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2012
#190
Paul is a huge anti gay crusader. More so than the President, although they share the
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2012
#52
So you think opposition to war and drug war is like an insane man on the subway?
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#67
You did a much better job of making a point I tried to make as well. Perfect.
PeaceNikki
Jan 2012
#81
It's all right, many people argue with the batting cage machine after so many swings and misses.
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#89
Agreed on all points: "Fuck him." But why aren't the Democrats leading on peace and drug reform?
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#44
It *is* the point, though. He 'gets' to talk about the stuff he talks about because he is a lunatic
PeaceNikki
Jan 2012
#60
And yes, I will post 'more stuff about how Paul sucks' in every conversation on DU that involves him
PeaceNikki
Jan 2012
#66
Civil rights are for white, male, Christian property owners. The rest of us are fucked in Paultopia.
PeaceNikki
Jan 2012
#54
You find attacks of a Republican on DU to be... "ODD" and/or hypocritical?!?!
PeaceNikki
Jan 2012
#76
Ron's not outflanking anyone. He's a lunatic who never had a chance at the Presidency.
MjolnirTime
Jan 2012
#74
Mentioning him on an internet discussion board is not giving him any traction
Mojorabbit
Jan 2012
#155
I don't know what makes you think that Democrats are the party of peace or killing the drug wars
cali
Jan 2012
#96
Democrats are the party that wants votes from those that support those things.
DirkGently
Jan 2012
#107
You're not constrained by it either. So how do you stand on war for empire and drug war?
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#109
Obviously something Paul's saying is "politically viable" or it wouldn't so anger Obama partisans.
DirkGently
Jan 2012
#113
The precise strawman silliness Greenwald predicted in his piece. Again, the partisan worldview
DirkGently
Jan 2012
#118
1) Not the point 2) You literally just copy pasta'd your own prior post? As a "response?"
DirkGently
Jan 2012
#125
It was clear you didn't read or comprehend it in context of this subthread.
PeaceNikki
Jan 2012
#127
And this has what to do with him having any functional space at all is because Democrats
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#131
Dead-on. The threat is that progressive ideas Dems have abandoned resonate. Defeats the narrative.
DirkGently
Jan 2012
#149
But, his stances on war and drug policy are not different. That's what pisses *me* off.
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#132
Most intellectuals know better. All you're doing is giving him a platform to lie.
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#134
Hell I think at one time or another everyone one of those GOP candidates have supported an issue...
LynneSin
Jan 2012
#148
Anyone who cares more about their drugs then the rights of minorities, GLBTQ and women.....
LynneSin
Jan 2012
#147
Why does it have to be a choice and how much of one is considering the real world
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#156
He's a threat to liberal-self-image because his ideology is incompatible with liberals.
joshcryer
Jan 2012
#169
It's more insidious than that--they're trying to link opposition to war, Drug War to rightwing
Romulox
Jan 2012
#173
Ron Paul isn't anti-war because of any morally sound reason. The same goes for the war on drugs.
phleshdef
Jan 2012
#177