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OnDoutside

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22. One thing we will have to face up to is that 45 years into the EU, we still have so much of
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 09:32 AM
Nov 2017

our trade with the UK, largely because it was easier to trade with a country that also spoke English. My son is currently in Primary School (age 5-13), and they are taught Mathematics, English and Irish as the main subjects (but they would also cover basic history, geography, science etc). When they are 8 and 13, they would do a lot of in class work for their Catholic Holy Communion and Confirmation. Nowhere in there do they teach them another European language, at a such a crucial age when kids are like sponges. Up to the age of 9 is the optimal time period to pick up a new language, most kids don't start learning French/German etc until they reach secondary school.

Instead learning Irish is compulsory until they're 18/19 years of age. Successive governments have pumped hundreds of millions into this over many decades and less people are speaking/able to speak Irish, yet kids spend 14 years studying a language that most will never use. We need to have that conversation.

Of the 1.76 million people who stated they were able to speak Irish, 73,803 spoke the language daily outside of the education system, which is 3,382 fewer than 2011. Some 32 per cent of Irish speakers in Gaeltacht areas spoke Irish daily outside the education system.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/census-2016-says-we-are-older-less-religious-and-speak-less-irish-1.3038927
Unfortunately, Brexit itself is the train wreck. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #1
There has to come a point where the Pro-EU Tories stand up, or that train will crash. OnDoutside Nov 2017 #3
They're set on respecting the referendum Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #5
That's only a smokescreen, the Tories have been split OnDoutside Nov 2017 #8
Corbyn doesn't help, either. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #11
Yes, that's true. The Labour Party really got unlucky with this clutz. The ONLY positive was his OnDoutside Nov 2017 #13
There's a lot of blame to go around on this disaster Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #15
There's enough information at this stage for them to see that it is a disaster. In that climate, OnDoutside Nov 2017 #17
Nice is actually one of the arguments against it in a Leaver's mind. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #19
Looks like the Irish government won't collapse, as Frances Fitzgerald OnDoutside Nov 2017 #20
Indeed. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #21
One thing we will have to face up to is that 45 years into the EU, we still have so much of OnDoutside Nov 2017 #22
Where's Cameron? moondust Nov 2017 #2
On a beach far far away, if i were him ! OnDoutside Nov 2017 #4
Surfing in Malibu Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #6
The only way out is electing a PM who has credibility with the EU and a mandate to stop Brexit Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2017 #7
I visited Ireland and North Ireland last year grantcart Nov 2017 #9
Yes and no Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #12
Apparently the veto is only allowed at this stage of the negotiations. If they all vote to move it OnDoutside Nov 2017 #14
The election nobody wants is just weird. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2017 #16
They all fear getting the blame for causing it ! OnDoutside Nov 2017 #18
I'd like him to back up his claim that immigration wasn't the reason for the Leave vote muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #10
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