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Honeycombe8

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50. That's not illegal. That's ordinary.

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 01:40 PM

Dec 2017

As Trump himself said, even if Flynn hadn't discussed sanctions w/Russia, Trump would have directed him to do that, because that was his job.

There is nothing illegal about Trump directing Flynn to "work with Russia."

The devil is in the details. Work with Russia to what end? For what result? To do what? In what way?

Sounds to me like Flynn is soft balling it so far. I don't see anything here to get excited about. Nothing leading to Trump doing anything illegal, except the obstruction charges, which don't involve Flynn.

Flynn says he was instructed to get with Russia to tamp down their response to the U.S. sanctions against Russia being announced, because the admin. wants a good relationship with Russia. That's not illegal...and doesn't sound like the truth, either. I recall reading at the time that the conversation was more like, "Hold on for now and wait...we're going to kill those sanctions."

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Wait, what's illegal about that exactly? Ligyron Dec 2017 #9

Interfering with the election came from Don Ill Dong himself & entire campaign. Likely GOP too. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #35

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It doesn't go down through the line of succession. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #113

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MSNBC cilla4progress Dec 2017 #21

Will he be a credible witness? jayschool2013 Dec 2017 #22

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That's not illegal. That's ordinary. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #50

Depends on at what point. moda253 Dec 2017 #63

Yeah, but that's a minor thing that no one has ever been prosecuted for. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #64

I'm Afraid you are correct highmindedhavi Dec 2017 #83

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Trump lawyers trying to distance themselves now.... Adrahil Dec 2017 #60

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kick again triron Dec 2017 #94

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Where does it say Trump instructed him to do anything? nt doc03 Dec 2017 #102

The article implies this all happened after the election ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #103

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Candidate Trump or President-elect Trump? GusBob Dec 2017 #129

ABC made a correction after initial report was out .... it was President elect Trump Kathy M Dec 2017 #135

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Thank you for having the courage to post the correction here............... quad489 Dec 2017 #147

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