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In reply to the discussion: ***UNBELIEVABLE***FLYNN WILL TESTIFY CANDIDATE TRUMP INSTRUCTED HIM TO WORK WITH RUSSIA [View all]Duppers
(28,256 posts)82. Definitely!
Last edited Fri Dec 1, 2017, 06:18 PM - Edit history (1)
There have been Americans sent to prison for the crime of lying about their cooperation with a foreign power, at war or not. The big Question then is: Why lie?
"Collusion is an agreement between two or more parties, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair market advantage."
This could be applied to governmental policies, elections, foreign relationships around the world (American business dealings with Russia or policies in general with Israel). Flynn must have thought so when he lied.
MSNBC is saying there's an underlying story and that is "collusion" with Russia in the presidential election and removing sanctions.
There's an excellent, MUST-READ thread on this here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029909294
Implications is that there's not only lying and a violation of the Logan Act, but big Obstruction of Justice charges.
Note that many in the press are ignoring the fact that Flynn was "colluding"/ "engaging in conspiracy" with Russia to circumvent sanctions laws while Obama was president. It was a crime then. He was not representing that part of the U.S. gov't then, therefore, this was done in more than just murky waters.
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***UNBELIEVABLE***FLYNN WILL TESTIFY CANDIDATE TRUMP INSTRUCTED HIM TO WORK WITH RUSSIA [View all]
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2017
OP
"General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it."
dalton99a
Dec 2017
#4
Now that he's injured Trump, he must ensure Trump is taken down completely.
lagomorph777
Dec 2017
#78
The Deplorables are going to be so surprised when they wake up one morning
lagomorph777
Dec 2017
#79
Interfering with the election came from Don Ill Dong himself & entire campaign. Likely GOP too.
Bernardo de La Paz
Dec 2017
#35
"Ok, ok Mueller! Here's how Putin turned Trump into a traitor bastard and sold out America...."
workinclasszero
Dec 2017
#11
It's beginning of middle of rolling up tRump criminal conspiracy. End is in sight. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Dec 2017
#36
They're going to pass this massive tax cut that so heavily benefits Donald Trump himself?
bucolic_frolic
Dec 2017
#107
I didn't put down RiverStone's post. I gave conditional agreement to the treason concept. . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Dec 2017
#109
Just thought of this: if RepubliCONs don't govern in coalition with Ds, hammer them in 2018 & 2020.
Bernardo de La Paz
Dec 2017
#46
If he helped or asked for an information or psyops campaign against us you bet yer ass that's treaso
moda253
Dec 2017
#61
conspiring to do criminal acts is illegal tho right? isnt that the rico laws?
questionseverything
Dec 2017
#138
And while it becomes certain the President is an actual traitor, he will tonight sign a bill
Eliot Rosewater
Dec 2017
#26
Since this was a completely illegitimate election, all the things 45 has signed should be
AllyCat
Dec 2017
#34
The article said Trump ordered him to contact Russia about defeating ISIS in Syria.
Kablooie
Dec 2017
#88
Listen to the LOCK HIM UP! chants on Time's video of Flynn as he comes out of the courthouse
onetexan
Dec 2017
#95
I don't think this is going to get Trump. Wanting his people to talk about Isis with Ruskies
Hoyt
Dec 2017
#105
Obstruction of justice or conspiracy - both are easier to prove than collusion
FakeNoose
Dec 2017
#131
ABC made a correction after initial report was out .... it was President elect Trump
Kathy M
Dec 2017
#135