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Doreen

(11,686 posts)
64. You speak how I feel.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:05 PM
Dec 2017

I was sexually abused throughout my life by many men ( including my father for years ) but I Still know all are not bad.

I am lucky that I do not suffer from panic attacks or have issues being touched. Well, the only area I dislike being touched are my ears but that is because I had so many ear infections while a child and having the damn doctor stick that damn thing in my ear and asking if that hurt.

I realize that there may be truth in this case with Franken and others ( including both Democrats and Republicans ) and there are also wrong accusations ( also on both sides. )

There are those who do it not realizing they are doing it, those who do it on purpose, those who will stop when asked despite it was intended or not, and those who will not stop who do it unintended or not.

You just need to use common sense and realize the difference and be able to know which type is a big problem and could put you or other women and men in danger and need to actually be reported.

Humans get caught up in the moment sometimes and do not think and that also needs to be taken into consideration.

Thank you for bringing this up because I have been scared to state it myself because I actually sometimes feel I am the only one who feels this way.



This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 OP
Can I copy your post and share it elsewhere? UpInArms Dec 2017 #1
That's fine. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #2
Thank you. dalton99a Dec 2017 #3
Well said! Rocky888 Dec 2017 #4
Thank you for sharing this. Lonestarblue Dec 2017 #5
That's a very real concern and one I share. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #10
I wrote something similar yesterday and several DU responders thought sinkingfeeling Dec 2017 #6
I completely understand. If I reported everything that ever happened to me... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #8
A guy trying to kiss me isn't harassment, except in certain situations. Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #76
Absolutely agree! peggysue2 Dec 2017 #7
My better half sounds just like what you wrote Farmer-Rick Dec 2017 #9
I agree with her. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #11
You said that right. They shouldn't be able to remain anonymous raccoon Dec 2017 #23
Thank You! RobinA Dec 2017 #12
I'm a WASPy female and Franken is Jewish greymattermom Dec 2017 #13
I would consider that another relevant point. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #14
Oh I bet!! Motownman78 Dec 2017 #88
Same here. I've considered raising the point but thought it would be misunderstood. delisen Dec 2017 #27
My ex-wife was Jewish as well NewJeffCT Dec 2017 #37
You point is great. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #47
From my mother's loving Jewish family mountain grammy Dec 2017 #38
Brilliant. Duppers Dec 2017 #15
Your last sentence resonates deeply. Very true! Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #17
Amazing Madam Mossfern Dec 2017 #16
Didn't even mention that, but yes... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #19
Yes, yes, yes YessirAtsaFact Dec 2017 #22
Thank you for your discussion. TNNurse Dec 2017 #18
Thank You for your post...k and r ..no text Stuart G Dec 2017 #20
Whether he is guilty or innocent, it has been handled badly. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #21
Exactly Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #25
Our Dem leaders have some explaining to do. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #32
Thank you. rainin Dec 2017 #24
Kudos for great post! ollie10 Dec 2017 #26
Franken is a smart fearless legislator The Wizard Dec 2017 #28
Excellent points! Jocelyn Elders too... nt appal_jack Dec 2017 #84
All minorities The Wizard Dec 2017 #85
:-( appal_jack Dec 2017 #86
There is not one accusation mainstreetonce Dec 2017 #29
casual touching isn't casual to everyone crazycatlady Dec 2017 #74
I am in TOTAL agreement with you, Pacifist! Total. This does not go down well with me. Nope.nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #30
K&R! Mme. Defarge Dec 2017 #31
I won't share my story in detail Sunsky Dec 2017 #33
You just told my story! CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #34
Franken's accusers don't seem plausible to me. Cassidy Dec 2017 #35
This is exactly how I feel about all this too... hurple Dec 2017 #36
Thank you, thank you, thank you! mountain grammy Dec 2017 #39
This applies to me as well. There are definitely Ilsa Dec 2017 #40
I got accused videohead5 Dec 2017 #41
And a non-virgin who'se unconscious wasn't actually raped, right? moriah Dec 2017 #46
But he was not videohead5 Dec 2017 #50
Of course we know she was exaggerating greatly by the word "grope". moriah Dec 2017 #58
You're from Arkansas? Howdy, neighbor! moriah Dec 2017 #42
Sadly I have never stepped foot in the state. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #44
I agree with you. The one woman said she was in fear because he touched her waist for a photo. SweetieD Dec 2017 #43
The waist "grope" sent me over the edge. Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #45
It is testimony like yours that makes me positively hate the concept of "zero tolerance." Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #48
I have delivered several sermons that demonized the evils of "zero tolerance." Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #51
My history exactly. These people forcing Franken out are not helping anyone. 58Sunliner Dec 2017 #49
They are playing a dangerous game CountAllVotes Dec 2017 #53
I hear you! WTF?????????????? 58Sunliner Dec 2017 #60
Well said idahoblue Dec 2017 #52
Yay!!!! Wish I could click the recommend button over and over!!! LAS14 Dec 2017 #54
Thank you. I have gone through plenty of unwanted touching, it was never worth fussing for long flamingdem Dec 2017 #55
Very well said PatSeg Dec 2017 #56
k and r and spot on! niyad Dec 2017 #57
I totally agree. I too have experienced the full gamut, from overly grabby to rape. Chemisse Dec 2017 #59
Thank you -- well said RandomAccess Dec 2017 #61
perspective is not seen by the majority. he grabbed no pussy or a PEEPING DONALD. pansypoo53219 Dec 2017 #62
Thankyou cynical_idealist Dec 2017 #63
You speak how I feel. Doreen Dec 2017 #64
Too bad the Democratic caucus doesn't have a tenth of your good sense. n/t MrModerate Dec 2017 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #66
Well said. Nitram Dec 2017 #67
Ditto kimbutgar Dec 2017 #68
This IS THE BEST post on this topic yet!!! THANK YOU!!! n.t USALiberal Dec 2017 #69
No excuses just because there's a "D" after their name. Lunabell Dec 2017 #70
If you are accusing me of making excuses based on party... Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #72
I'm not accusing anyone of anything. Lunabell Dec 2017 #73
Very well said KrazyinKS Dec 2017 #71
Brava! Madame Patriot! Collimator Dec 2017 #75
Bingo! Pacifist Patriot Dec 2017 #81
... shenmue Dec 2017 #77
Frankens transgressions were indeed petty Puzzledtraveller Dec 2017 #78
I identify with you completely; the Franken railroading is not just insulting, it's retraumatizing stuffmatters Dec 2017 #79
His accusers are all questionable. The first one crosses into perjury territory BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #80
I stand with Franken zentrum Dec 2017 #82
Powerful perspective! A matter of degrees is absolutely relevant. FailureToCommunicate Dec 2017 #83
I hear you Leighbythesea Dec 2017 #87
Thank you for your candidness in your OP... pbmus Dec 2017 #89
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