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Tom Rinaldo

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42. Senators aren't knee capping Franken to clear the path for themselves

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 07:02 PM

Dec 2017

The Senate is a small place, members of the Democratic Caucus know each other pretty well - it simply isn't that blood thirsty and ruthless - at least not on our side of the aisle. And Bernie's voice in this matter was not a decisive one. The push to make Franken resign began elsewhere, and for other reasons. All sources I've seen seem to indicate that the female Democratic Senators were decisive. Once they as a virtual group made their views clear it became more difficult for male Democratic Caucus members to not follow their lead on Franken, assuming they weren't already strongly of that inclination.

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I am not clear on why Bernie would want to railroad Franken. What were his ulterior motives? [View all] LexVegas Dec 2017 OP

The same as everyone else's were at that point kcr Dec 2017 #1

I think there is truth to this Renew Deal Dec 2017 #6

No. Franken was fighting this tooth and nail. kcr Dec 2017 #8

I know Renew Deal Dec 2017 #11

"Fighting tooth and nail" brooklynite Dec 2017 #26

Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #30

BOOM! Thing of beauty my dear ChubbyStar Dec 2017 #34

Had dinner with the Party Chair on Wednesday; had a reception with a House candidate last night... brooklynite Dec 2017 #38

Hell Franken himself did not want to look like he was against it Egnever Dec 2017 #9

This is why I think their actions do more harm than good kcr Dec 2017 #13

Well said. Nt BootinUp Dec 2017 #21

Well said SHRED Dec 2017 #37

I agree with you flamingdem Dec 2017 #67

Yep. there's truth to this. mountain grammy Dec 2017 #75

Oblivious to, or in denial re: how far the RW would take things--OR "path of least resistance"? hlthe2b Dec 2017 #2

So Bernie now goes under the bus on DU. nycbos Dec 2017 #3

To be fair, along with almost every other Dem colleague if that's any comfort kcr Dec 2017 #4

as a huge bernie fan, i expected more of him, warren and brown too questionseverything Dec 2017 #31

The whole thing is hugely disappointing kcr Dec 2017 #32

It can't get any more disappointing. Our party leaders showed they won't back their... brush Dec 2017 #41

all we can do is find different leaders questionseverything Dec 2017 #48

I was sorry to see Bernie join the rest of his Senate colleagues shoveling InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #51

franken did not have to be sacrificed to do that questionseverything Dec 2017 #59

I hear ya... so bummed. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #63

so somehow we gotta pick up and try again questionseverything Dec 2017 #64

Wow, nice... keep up the good fight!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #66

since gore's election was stolen..we have been trying questionseverything Dec 2017 #70

Good for you... Gore's stolen election was the reason I went from being a lurker here to InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #71

disappointed also in Merkley spooky3 Dec 2017 #76

Me too - so disappointed in Bernie and Warren. womanofthehills Dec 2017 #77

I am not interested in either. apcalc Dec 2017 #79

I expect more of Bernie, and I'm very disappointed in his piling on PatrickforO Dec 2017 #58

What you said flamingdem Dec 2017 #68

Right there with you... disappointed in Bernie's "pile on" too... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #69

Why pick on Sanders? He is just one of many Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #5

The real question is... CrowCity_Dem Dec 2017 #7

has she called publicly for trump to resign? nt msongs Dec 2017 #10

I agree with all of them. Franken has to go. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #12

You should tell them Senators to ask Trump to resign rockfordfile Dec 2017 #15

what about trump is pathetic. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #19

There had been no due process... FarPoint Dec 2017 #28

Agree. Zero tolerance. apcalc Dec 2017 #80

Schummer got my first letter Egnever Dec 2017 #16

Abso-fuckin-lutely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #72

i am disgusted with all of them...gillibrand was the leader but questionseverything Dec 2017 #33

Because she was the first one to immediately believe Tweeden's sketchy story... brush Dec 2017 #44

As I've said the TRUTH never mattered,only the ACCUSATIONS..... Bengus81 Dec 2017 #74

Did they post that early when there were no men? Bengus81 Dec 2017 #73

They're all equally responsible, tho, honestly, one could argue Gillibrand was the "tipping point" InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #78

Expected nothing less. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #52

I am not a fan of Bernie. But I do not see him as the bad guy in this debacle. Tipperary Dec 2017 #14

My thoughts exactly. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #53

Well for some reason the supporters of Bernie think that a progressive will be in the seat rockfordfile Dec 2017 #17

He saw him as competition in 2020 Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2017 #18

Bernie stated his position quite clearly, as usual... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #56

We see you. Agschmid Dec 2017 #20

Why don't you ask about the motives of the Dems? milestogo Dec 2017 #22

That is the point of the OP, I think. Over and over here people have been blaming the Dems pnwmom Dec 2017 #39

if that is your sideways kick at bernie...i blame him too questionseverything Dec 2017 #49

Hillary strongly believes healthcare is a human right. And that's why she led the fight for a pnwmom Dec 2017 #50

He thought it was the right thing to do MaryMagdaline Dec 2017 #23

I don't trust any presidential candidate that dodges releasing their tax returns!!! FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2017 #27

He didn't want to "railroad" Franken... brooklynite Dec 2017 #24

People have been ascribing nefarious motives to the Democrats who signed the letter. pnwmom Dec 2017 #40

2020 (nt) question everything Dec 2017 #25

2018 is just as, if not more, important! dhol82 Dec 2017 #29

Is he up for re-election? Then yes, you are correct (nt) question everything Dec 2017 #35

He wasn't up for re-election until 2020 but his replacement will face a special election in 2018 brush Dec 2017 #45

there was talk of Franken running for president in 2020 gopiscrap Dec 2017 #36

Senators aren't knee capping Franken to clear the path for themselves Tom Rinaldo Dec 2017 #42

When Big Egos Are Involved, the Green-Eyed Monster Thrives dlk Dec 2017 #43

Franken was getting some of the attention he thought he deserved. DavidDvorkin Dec 2017 #46

Stirring the pot left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #47

Beyond sad... more like pathetic!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #57

Same reason the rest of them did. JI7 Dec 2017 #54

Bernie did not do it. Roget Stone did it. Can we not Divide and Conquer ourselves? McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #55

Too many enjoy the 'circular firing squad' left-of-center2012 Dec 2017 #62

Please delete this thread n/t emulatorloo Dec 2017 #60

Agree. And replace it with one about the many crimes of Putin. McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #61

I see no evidence of Bernie railroading Franken. What are your motives for saying so? aikoaiko Dec 2017 #65

Slimy original post. David__77 Dec 2017 #81