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39. Bob Packwood's investigation took three years and only concluded when...

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Mon Dec 11, 2017, 08:27 AM

Dec 2017

Bob Packwood's investigation took three years and only concluded when Mitch McConnell prevailed upon him to resign.

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I don't know why we couldn't wait until the ethics investigation played out with Franken [View all] stevenleser Dec 2017 OP

What would the ethics investigation have changed? brooklynite Dec 2017 #1

Well how the heck do you know what they would have found? greeny2323 Dec 2017 #5

It would have changed the fact he didn't get due process. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #6

So, it's not that he's innocent, it's that the accusations aren't serious enough? brooklynite Dec 2017 #9

Spurious means fake/false, not "aren't serious enough". To address your last sentence, not that you uppityperson Dec 2017 #13

"You've never hugged or touched someone without asking for permission first?" brooklynite Dec 2017 #15

All you have hugged or touched people you know without permission. Why uppityperson Dec 2017 #17

Well you are the exception. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #66

You're missing the point, I think. PatrickforO Dec 2017 #18

It would have given him the opportunity to answer accusations by REAL PEOPLE, pnwmom Dec 2017 #20

Ok, then-"Brooklynite in '20!" Ken Burch Dec 2017 #36

I'm touched, but as a member of a hated minority, I can't run. brooklynite Dec 2017 #38

For whatever it's worth, I sort of like you. Ken Burch Dec 2017 #64

Even if every word is true...I don't think they are serious enough for a forced resignation, but I Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #65

Are you sure? treestar Dec 2017 #80

As opposed to now? How many things do you want me to cite? stevenleser Dec 2017 #7

Do you honestly believe that the hearing would be this adversarial? brooklynite Dec 2017 #16

Several of the complaints would have been dismissed out of hand -- as they should have been pnwmom Dec 2017 #21

The senate ethics committee by law has an equal number of Democrats and Republicans, 3 each stevenleser Dec 2017 #22

The recognition that an investigaion was warranted ... NanceGreggs Dec 2017 #11

At least that would be some form of due process. FarPoint Dec 2017 #26

One accuser was happy she was spared reliving the trauma of someone R B Garr Dec 2017 #27

Yes, exacty! mountain grammy Dec 2017 #44

+1 betsuni Dec 2017 #52

MN voters had their election overturned dsc Dec 2017 #40

We'll never know.. why don't you want an investigation? mountain grammy Dec 2017 #41

I think it would've changed a lot -- here's why RandomAccess Dec 2017 #61

Wow, why DOES ANY investigation happen then? You seriously do not get it! n/t USALiberal Dec 2017 #78

You are right. blue cat Dec 2017 #2

We need to keep calling, emailing, tweeting, facebooking flamingdem Dec 2017 #12

Damn right! nt cwydro Dec 2017 #25

accusors didn't want an investigation . Gillibrand led it just like Bernie did with the medicare JI7 Dec 2017 #3

How could she be this tone deaf? Did someone set her up? leftstreet Dec 2017 #4

She is my senator, and I like how she has been doing, but I did not think her ready for the national stevenleser Dec 2017 #8

No doubt... disappointing beyond belief! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #14

This is a judgment issue... and they failed Egnever Dec 2017 #31

That is what I think. Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #67

My sentiments exactly RandomAccess Dec 2017 #62

Several reasons mythology Dec 2017 #10

The multiple accusations are a concern, but there were also troubling issues with the accusations stevenleser Dec 2017 #23

I don't believe four anonymous should even count. LisaL Dec 2017 #42

Completely disagree on the "relatively political cost" BlueWI Dec 2017 #77

It is complete BS! BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #19

Yes indeed. nt cwydro Dec 2017 #24

I agree.. chillfactor Dec 2017 #28

Steven, I don't understand either. It feels like mass madness, completely self-destructive... Hekate Dec 2017 #29

In the speech announcing he would be resigning, Franken specifically spoke to that issue... PoliticAverse Dec 2017 #30

He can't speak to the issue I am discussing. It's why the pressure from other senators to resign. nt stevenleser Dec 2017 #60

" If Gillibrand deserves our scorn, they all do" dchill Dec 2017 #32

Frankly squeeze-gate seems like a pretext. ucrdem Dec 2017 #33

Did you ever think that maybe Franken knew that what has been uncovered SFnomad Dec 2017 #34

Your thoughtfully crafted post is full of truth and wisdom DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #48

Yes I have. That is one possibility, but it doesnt explain the pressure from other senators. stevenleser Dec 2017 #59

+1 Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #74

That's essentially what I have written to them. nt Duppers Dec 2017 #35

K&R betsuni Dec 2017 #37

Bob Packwood's investigation took three years and only concluded when... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #39

There is no earthly reason for that should take anything like that long dsc Dec 2017 #49

There are nine witnesses and countless corroborative witnesses for the accusers. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #55

half hour per side, per witness dsc Dec 2017 #56

If you can cite an authoritative source that an inquiry of this size and magnitude DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #57

three years is longer than the Menendez brothers and OJ dsc Dec 2017 #69

O J was arrested on June 17, 1994. He was acquitted on all charges on October 3, 1995 DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #70

the trial wasn't 3 years which is my point dsc Dec 2017 #71

In other words you don't have an authoritative source. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #72

From the myriad of trials our society has dsc Dec 2017 #73

You keep repeating how long you think the inquiry should take which is your right. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2017 #75

The Senate Ethics Committee has never investigation that took place before a person was a Senator Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #43

Not all accusations were before Franken became senator. LisaL Dec 2017 #45

I've contacted every one of them mountain grammy Dec 2017 #46

The Democratic Party is now officially split because due process was ruled out. Vinca Dec 2017 #47

What happens if its against a male? LisaL Dec 2017 #51

I'm calling Sen. Murphy today to complain and Senator Blumenthal to thank him. femmedem Dec 2017 #50

K&R stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #53

They all are tainted ollie10 Dec 2017 #54

Al Franken out. Roy Moore in. That's where we're headed. MariaCSR Dec 2017 #58

Total HS that democrats railroad a fellow senator right out of office without workinclasszero Dec 2017 #63

Sadly they don't Egnever Dec 2017 #68

Mistaken belief they could side step HopeAgain Dec 2017 #76

I don't think that "we" had anything to do with it fescuerescue Dec 2017 #79

I'm dumbfounded as well Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2017 #81