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PoindexterOglethorpe

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27. Exit polls for so long were so reliable that they
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 11:55 AM
Dec 2017

were used to announce results before polls closed. That's what happened in 1980, when all the networks called the race for Ronald Reagan several hours before polls closed on the west coast, causing thousands of people to walk away from polling places and not bother to vote. After that, the networks agreed not to make such predictions until the polls in the west coast closed.

I also understand that in 1992 the Clinton campaign knew by noon on Election Day that he was going to win big because of their own polling.

They also used to use the results from certain specific precincts that had been excellent predictors of the outcome for their states. I'm not sure if those results were also called exit polls but I know that they were important in the predictions, which is why you'd see a network calling a race with only a very tiny percentage of results in, so long as they had the results from those precincts.

It's hard to know what made exit polling less reliable. One thing in many states would be the advent of advance voting. Another might be that whoever was doing the exit polling wasn't being as careful as before. Maybe significant numbers of voters are lying to the exit pollers, or maybe who was willing to talk to them has become skewed. I'm inclined to guess that they're not being as careful and precise as before in many ways, including not selecting precincts very carefully. And the benchmark precincts may well have changed and the polling isn't keeping up with that.

Right now three states (Oregon, Washington, and Colorado) have mail-in voting only, which means exit polling as such can't happen in those states. I bet by 2050 around half of all states will be mail-in only. It's probably a lot harder to suppress voting in those mail-in states.

Yes, they were. I took a Democratic Development course from Stanford and octoberlib Dec 2017 #1
Exactly. Sorry to see RAchel buying into this. She literally said they are always wrong and Amaryllis Dec 2017 #2
That's just lazy. Do some research, Rachel octoberlib Dec 2017 #4
It's not even logical to not ask the question why? Amaryllis Dec 2017 #7
All journalists ( with the exception of people like Greg Palast) octoberlib Dec 2017 #9
brad blog is good too questionseverything Dec 2017 #17
Octoberlib, could the extreme polarization and Hortensis Dec 2017 #38
I think its entirely possible. I thought one octoberlib Dec 2017 #39
Sounds like a very interesting course. Hortensis Dec 2017 #40
I took it in a MOOC! It was offered on Coursera. octoberlib Dec 2017 #41
Oh, thanks, Octoberlib. I'll go check it out. Hortensis Dec 2017 #44
Rachel is buyin into a hoax. triron Dec 2017 #3
all depends upon whose dogma you choose to believe: Gabi Hayes Dec 2017 #8
Yep. Final results not matching exit polls TDale313 Dec 2017 #6
Jimmy Carter has said that many times KelleyKramer Dec 2017 #24
Too bad Rachel made such an assumption without documentation to back her statement diva77 Dec 2017 #5
a lady on rachel's show just mentioned the lawsuit we lost last night about questionseverything Dec 2017 #10
Can you explain this flamingdem Dec 2017 #11
ei peops sued and won to get the digital images preserved,then late last night al supremes overturne questionseverything Dec 2017 #12
Thanks. This issue makes my blood boil flamingdem Dec 2017 #14
me too..i don't think hrc actually lost either wisconsin or michigan questionseverything Dec 2017 #16
I think it was stolen flamingdem Dec 2017 #18
Or PA; she didnt lose that either. Amaryllis Dec 2017 #28
She underperformed Josh Shapiro (D) DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #34
info in the following op too questionseverything Dec 2017 #13
More info RandomAccess Dec 2017 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author diva77 Dec 2017 #21
I think most media people do not understand election integrity. It takes about 3 months to really diva77 Dec 2017 #20
you would thinks would of used the repubs nontransparency an issue questionseverything Dec 2017 #29
I've been saying this for years malaise Dec 2017 #19
In Germany, we treat exit polls almost like preliminary results Ezior Dec 2017 #22
you said it. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #37
Rachel finally got something correct Awsi Dooger Dec 2017 #23
yah, the Election Reform forum was once filled with great discussions diva77 Dec 2017 #30
Agree! No one seems to do a scientific, logical, exam on why suddenly exit polls are always wrong. UCmeNdc Dec 2017 #25
Do you have data to demonstrate this claim? Loki Liesmith Dec 2017 #26
i personally remember in 2000 the pundits talking about how accurate exit polls "used to be," TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #32
Thats not data Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #42
Exit polls for so long were so reliable that they PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #27
agreed, except you forgot election hacking as an explanation for the skewed exit polls. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #36
started in 2000 i think, and they've been "wrong" ever since. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #31
Results depend on when and where the exit polling is done DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #33
how come they knew how to do it 20 years ago, but now it's a very inexact, "evolving" science, TheFrenchRazor Dec 2017 #35
Maybe they were not as good as everyone thinks they were two decades ago Lee-Lee Dec 2017 #43
20 years ago computers, internet, social media, cell DeminPennswoods Dec 2017 #45
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