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pasto76

(1,589 posts)
7. thank you for a very intelligent reply this topic. Very refreshing to not get demonized to push
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:02 AM
Apr 2012

ending the war. Which happens on DU a lot. Post article about troops doing something very bad, complain this is why the war should end. period. Im not disagreeing that it is long past time when any of my soldiers should die for this war, but this also could have happened in the first months. Typing that now, I would bet that it probably did.

Your reply is really appreciated. I can totally tell you from my experience, "getting some" during the iraq war was in fact, vindication of my/our being there. Because there were very few things to grasp to maintain some mental stability. It's the same mechanism by which people say (and say to me often), "look man we went over there to depose saddamn for reasons x,y and z. Are you really saying SSG XXXX died over there for NOTHING?!" They've marked their belief that something, anything was good about Iraq by equating superior soldiers and superior citizens of this country having been killed in that armpit.

Your reply also demonstrates a LACK of STIGMA that we are all enduring right now. As a veteran, every time I get mad, people think "omg PTSD case." Never mind that my stupid boss at work generated such an unsafe condition that me and my partner could have been killed....never mind that. Clearly Im PTSD.

LEFT and RIGHT perpetrate this stigma. If nothing else, when you see stories like this, you know someone is a veteran of this or any war and they are yelling about something - try and put yourself in our shoes. YOu DONT KNOW what war is like. YOU dont know how it changes every one of us. As an educated (biology degree) person, when we were mobilizing to deploy, I was "pretty sure" I was intellectualizing and projecting accurately what the experience was going to be like. I was 100000% wrong on each and every count.

anyway, thanks again. Im going to post your reply to my FB page.

Be Cool
SGT PASTO

War is brutalizing. HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #1
Oskar Schindler says something very similar about the Nazi officer Amon Goeth in Schindler's List. Towlie Apr 2012 #3
thank you for a very intelligent reply this topic. Very refreshing to not get demonized to push pasto76 Apr 2012 #7
hey! marshall gaines Apr 2012 #13
thanks for sharing your perspectives here Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #14
hell marshall gaines Apr 2012 #8
For many, probably -- not some. Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #16
Yes, no doubt individual response varies HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #18
Winning hearts and minds. obxhead Apr 2012 #2
No! NO!!!! marshall gaines Apr 2012 #10
They started it. obxhead Apr 2012 #11
Our tax $$ @ work! lunasun Apr 2012 #4
stay classy fellas. n/t deacon_sephiroth Apr 2012 #5
Bounty of the warmonger. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #6
Afghanistan at war has long been noted for brutality and desecration. PassingFair Apr 2012 #9
wow Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #15
so it is OK to act barbaric then??? I see...makes sense then- not! lunasun Apr 2012 #19
And again, why are we there? n2doc Apr 2012 #12
My uncle sent photos back from the Korean War but nothing like this. Pics of their camps, pics of jwirr Apr 2012 #17
War is hell. MrSlayer Apr 2012 #20
Sadly, this behavior is a common part of war. Now the Facebook generation is once again Leopolds Ghost Apr 2012 #21
the 'stan is now the 'nam Tax Man Apr 2012 #22
I think this type of black humor occurs whenever hedgehog Apr 2012 #23
It's OK for soldiers to do these poses as long as they keep cameras away. alp227 Apr 2012 #24
"...no one would defend Afghan soldiers who killed American soldiers... KansDem Apr 2012 #25
And not forgetting ... Nihil Apr 2012 #26
That first pic is seriously photoshopped B2G Apr 2012 #27
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